Amulya

Spin-off from make or buy:

lets talk about all the fashions that have been and the new as well

I have copy pasted a few things from the other thread:

Big fringe is out (was more 90's), big boofy skirts with sides tucked into the sides of the belt (90's) are out.

Lycra costumes are still in but now you see more often a sort of very glossy fabric.
Dresses were very popular a few years ago but a bit less now, although you still see them around.

From Daimona's post:
If you are following the Egyptian fashion, slinky lycra costumes with rhinestones, beads and pailettes and simple beaded headbands/head wraps have been big the last decade. As Amulya said, they are still hot - but the fabrics themselves are more glitzy, and for the last 6 years, the amount of beads and paliettes has decreased (no need for them with a sparkly, shiny fabric, huh?). The use of lycra in costumes may also have caused a change in dance style (or is it the opposite way?) as the same moves will look different in various costumes.

From Daimona's post: If you have been a fashionista wanting to wear the same as dancers such as Dina, your costume wouldn't have been lycra only, but also short skirts etc.

Epaulettes and crowns are out, they were big in the 90's I think.

When you go further back in fashion, there were some sort of weird arm thingies that were basically a big tunnel of fabric with elastic on each side (someone told in another thread that the audience thought they were garbage bags!) I think they were big in the 80's.

From what I could find about the 70's I only could find about American belly dancers, the AmCap style was big (is this right, please correct me if not) and they used a lot of coins in their costumes.

In the 60's belly dance fashion was very skimpy in Egypt, they would have the belly net, but teensy belts with big fluffy see through skirts with lots of leg showing and even underwear! (I have pictures to prove that, but on another computer)

Have a look at some vintage video clips and there is even a whole different fashion. I must say in those times costumes weren't that well constructed (the bras)

here are some pictures:

from the 60's



More 60's:


Here is a drawing (done by my grandfather in 1968) of the description I gave of an Egyptian costume in the 60's, you can see the splits go right up to the belt. Very strange bra shape and tiny belt. The tucked in sides where fashion too:




If you compare the 3 pictures, they have tiny bras. You see that in videos as well.

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Amulya

In the 90's veils with beaded edges were in and also with huge sequins on the edges. (they were handy for whacking nasty people in the face)

And I totally forgot: the big fringe! That was fashion for a long time, this video is from the 80's but the 90's had huge fringe too. Look at the backside of the red costume, there is extra fringe on the shoulder straps:



More big fringe (Nelly Fouad, I have the actual video of this, but not video player haha):



Does anyone remeber the horrible Mezdeke video's with these dancers?



When were costumes like these:



Badawia - 1978:

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Amulya

Tagged as 70's, but might be 60's (apparently ribbon skirts were in):



Badawia - 1978, looks like Tribal Fusion dancers got some of their ideas from this kind of stuff, in Tribal Bible that has been mentioned. I actually really like this costume!

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Daimona

For some reason, the bras in the pictures of the 60ies remind me of some of the bras found on turkish costumes today, such as these examples from Istanbul Dreams: PRF-152 PRF-895 PRF-680 PRF-680 PRF-680 PRF-345
and some of Didems costumes (in case you don't know, Didem is a contemporary turkish bellydancer; find out more about her somewhere else on this forum and on the internet if you want to)

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Amulya

Very similar indeed, but the sides of the backstraps are open instead. Bella makes a lot of those. Didem has Bella's so it makes sense
But Bella has a total different fashion to its own it seems, they come up with things that are just a little more original. But so do other designers of course.

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Ariadne

Out of curiosity has anyone ever looking into whether or not you can apply the theory of trending economic state by skirt length in BD costuming? If you aren't familiar with the theory it basically says that the better the economy of a country the more fabric is used to make skirts/dresses but the worse the economy the shorter the length gets ie. less fabric.

Daimona

I wouldn't say it impacted the length of the skirts, but perhaps widths and amount of decorations?

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Nath

Fascinating thread.

Ariadne

I suspect it had a direct impact specifically on Egyptian costuming. I doubt though that the costuming in turn really affected the music that much. The changes in music seem to me to be more cultural... though you could argue that culture is affected by the economy also...

arcane77

I really like the 70's dancer, not so much the ribbon skirt more the dance and the revolving floor!! Ooh, so Retro!!!

Ok so Beehive look isn't so nice with BDancing :/