I think that what was promised was that vid of Khaled teaching would not be posted on YouTybe - which i think is fair enough. I have seen enough rip offs on there to last me a lfetime. you can watch complete copyrighted dvds (albeit in several sections)
Nothing makes me madder than to go to a teacher who teaches a choreography that you PAY to learn and then have that instructor tell you that you can't use it!!! My opinion is that if students paid for it, they bought it and it is their's
Regards,
A'isha
Yes but I hope they credit the teacher - I get mad when I see a choreogaphy that has been copied from a workshop I have been to and the teacher hasn't been credited despite the opportunity to do so - it works both ways !
As a teacher there is no one better. He is kind but demanding. I was very distracted at JoY by all kinds of personal problems and he spotted in a big class that I was not getting something simple and charged over and stayed with me 'til I got it right. "I know you, you can do this!" Hell he must have been so exasperated but he left me with a smile. A lesser teacher would have just let me get on with it.
His technique is lovely, crisp and if a lot little showy, so what..he is an entertainer and I can forgive the talented the me me me on the stage. But he can be very generous to other dancer. I saw him stand back and allow others to shine at the Yorkshire Egytptian Moonlight.
But he isn't for everyone and give me the choice of watching Randa or Djamilla and I am more content. I can't justify it, I am just more at home with a more laid back dancer. That doesn't detract from the fact that others are blown away by him.
There is nothing whatsoever Divaish in his behaviour off stage except that he is a showy dresser and does appreciate the adulation..who doesn't? he is sensitive and intelligent and has done so much for the dancers in this country to inject a lot more Egypt into us.We have a lot to be grateful to him for and I am not quite sure what JoY would be like without him, Mandy!!!
As for the costume, it was a lot better than some others I have seen him wear. Toned down in shape and applique, I thought he looked good although the one I like best is the bronze coloured one he wore last time. I will seek out a photo.
And he was the dancer who finally made the penny drop with me..if a man wants to get on stage to perform oriental dance instead of just teaching or choreographing...why not!
Khaled always shines at Joy. I will always be ever grateful to him for coming to the jewel of Yorkshire, He always says it is like coming home to my family when he comes to JoY- Does this sound like a Diva?
Most people are surprised by his teaching & dancing. See him live & you are glued - what a fantastic dance & showman.
I do have to say the video makes him look bigger than he is.
I made the costume & I am sorry some people did not like it but I do it is not too OTT.I think it is the thing of a man in a 2 piece costume. To be honest I still think Khaled looks best in a White Galabaya & I have told Khaled this but he needs 2 piece costumes for his oriental performances.
Most Egyptian like sparkle & colour
So I will ask the question what should Khaled wear? He will not wear a Galabaya for dance oriental.
Khaled always shines at Joy. I will always be ever grateful to him for coming to the jewel of Yorkshire, He always says it is like coming home to my family when he comes to JoY- Does this sound like a Diva?
Most people are surprised by his teaching & dancing. See him live & you are glued - what a fantastic dance & showman.
I do have to say the video makes him look bigger than he is.
I made the costume & I am sorry some people did not like it but I do it is not too OTT.I think it is the thing of a man in a 2 piece costume. To be honest I still think Khaled looks best in a White Galabaya & I have told Khaled this but he needs 2 piece costumes for his oriental performances.
Most Egyptian like sparkle & colour
So I will ask the question what should Khaled wear? He will not wear a Galabaya for dance oriental.
When I took a workshop from him he let us videotape (with him! most teachers doesn't even want to be on the tape) for our own use but he also asked us NOT to put it on YouTube. He didn't tell us not to teach or perform his choreo. I even took a workshop with Fereshteh teaching Khaled's choreography and she said never, ever to use it WITHOUT crediting him, sooo... he is fine with us using his choreos if we credit him.Dear Jenc,
If this is what he asked, this seems reasonable to me. If, on the other hand, he asked her not to share what she learned from him ever, on the net or otherwise, then that is not reasonable as we all would then have nothing to share if everyone followed this policy. I go to workshops to further my own education, as both a performer and instructor. I teach people things that I have learned from various instructors or videos and I tell people where I learned the stuff that is complex o more than fundamental.
Nothing makes me madder than to go to a teacher who teaches a choreography that you PAY to learn and then have that instructor tell you that you can't use it!!! My opinion is that if students paid for it, they bought it and it is their's
Regards,
A'isha
When I took a workshop from him he let us videotape (with him! most teachers doesn't even want to be on the tape) for our own use but he also asked us NOT to put it on YouTube. He didn't tell us not to teach or perform his choreo. I even took a workshop with Fereshteh teaching Khaled's Choreography and she said never, ever to use it WITHOUT crediting him, sooo... he is fine with us using his choreos if we credit him.
Hope that makes it clearer
Gisela
Khaled does not mind any one using or teaching his choreographies. He just does not want them on the net. On a couple of occasions Khaled turn up to teach a workshop & people have complained they have already learnt the choreography from the net.
Thank you Caroline you under stand just what I am saying. It is not easy to balance a person’s needs and tastes.
The colour choice was mine on both of Khaled’s costumes I have made him. The first costume was brown/bronze with a belt on a diagonal but he wanted something different & brighter this time. The costume did look neon on stage & in the video but it is a deep Jade colour. I think the belt should be low to give better bum coverage but Khaled thinks this looks like a skirt. Khaled got a catsuit & that doesn’t work. Khaled knows what he wants & he should be allowed to wear what he wants - it is him wearing it.
The point I am trying to make is Khaled is happy with his body & costumes. This dance is about self expression right down to what people wear. I can accept people saying his dancing or costumes are not to their taste but what gives anyone the right to tell anyone what to wear & what they should look like. Also what kind of message are we sending out to people if we only allow dancers to perform that have the perfect body shape, Khaled knows some people do not like his dancing but like he says they do not have to watch.
Raqia Hassan commented at JoY how good Khaled’s technique & dancing is.
I do not normally allow taping at JoY but this time I said alright. This post will remind me to say no in the future. I have always said this dance is best enjoyed live.
Khaled does not mind any one using or teaching his choreographies. He just does not want them on the net. On a couple of occasions Khaled turn up to teach a workshop & people have complained they have already learnt the choreography from the net.
Then people are really missing the point, because learning a choreography off the net is not getting that the movements should be only part of the choreography and it is always better to learn from a human in person for many reasons. So many have reduced the dance to movement alone.
Thank you Caroline you under stand just what I am saying. It is not easy to balance a person’s needs and tastes.
The colour choice was mine on both of Khaled’s costumes I have made him. The first costume was brown/bronze with a belt on a diagonal but he wanted something different & brighter this time. The costume did look neon on stage & in the video but it is a deep Jade colour. I think the belt should be low to give better bum coverage but Khaled thinks this looks like a skirt. Khaled got a catsuit & that doesn’t work. Khaled knows what he wants & he should be allowed to wear what he wants - it is him wearing it.
I assume you might be talking to me here. though you did not address me directly. A catsuit can work on him if designed properly. I am a professional theatrical costumer as well as a dancer and have designed and built dance costumes for every body shape. Except for the fact that I have bigger breasts, we have a very similar body type,as I said. I have costumed for dancers in many different genres, including ballet, jazz, modern, belly dance and folkloric dances of the Middle East and North Africa. I am not just blowing smoke out my nose.
Of course he can wear whatever he wants. That sort of ends any positive discussion or suggestions about costuming right there, doesn't it?
The point I am trying to make is Khaled is happy with his body & costumes. This dance is about self expression right down to what people wear. I can accept people saying his dancing or costumes are not to their taste but what gives anyone the right to tell anyone what to wear & what they should look like. Also what kind of message are we sending out to people if we only allow dancers to perform that have the perfect body shape, Khaled knows some people do not like his dancing but like he says they do not have to watch.
I seem to recall you asking for suggestions about his costuming or probably none of us would have offered any advice. I know I would not have. I perform without the perfect body shape and as I said, I have a body similar to his so I thought you were open to some suggestions. My mistake.
Regards,
A'isha
I do not normally allow taping at JoY but this time I said alright. This post will remind me to say no in the future. I have always said this dance is best enjoyed live.Raqia Hassan commented at JoY how good Khaled’s technique & dancing is.
On a couple of occasions Khaled turn up to teach a workshop & people have complained they have already learnt the choreography from the net.
That is a good rule. And a mental image I did not need......just as a general for guys, NEVER EVER WEAR ANY SEE THROUGH PANTS, ESPECIALLY HAREM PANTS!
What we wear is an individual choice but I think male dancers like men in general have less options open to them.
I agree, and I costumed one of the most famous male dancers in America for some years. His name was Aziz and he had a reputation for having very good taste. Our efforts were always collaborative with both of us giving input. He understood that I knew my job was to make him look as good as I possibly could, and he trusted me to do just that.
I doubt anyone wants to wear a galabiya all of the time, a catsuit may end up looking like a Elvis, two pieces may end up looking like a male version of a womens costume, too much diamonte and tight pants can look like Liberace on ice.
Any style of costume can look good or bad, depending on what one does with it. It is not the style, so much as how one makes lines happen within the style. I can't wear those squared necklines, but if I add something to soften the line then voila!! Strangely, when I saw Khaled dance in Cairo, he did remind me of Liberace for some reason....
Alot of the new costumes for women have no relation to Egypt or the Middle East, can men have this freedom too?
Does Tito ever look better than when he is in jeans and a T-shirt????
What's a man to wear?
Cowboy boots.... just....cowboy boots..... Okay, maybe with a little pahve and diamonte
Regards,
A'isha
Dear Caroline,
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Cowboy boots.... just....cowboy boots..... Okay, maybe with a little pahve and diamonte
Regards,
A'isha
My favourite being the bronze one Mandy made for him ...