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    Quote Originally Posted by Sita View Post
    Say what? Kama Sutra? *eyebrows raised* I'm would not have believed it was possible to combine those moves - bellydance and music together

    Maybe someone should put Sadie and Kaya in touch with that couple on the South American tv show: the ones the used the women's bum as a sword holder. I think both are heading in the same artistic direction

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    Ou American friends will let us know.
    Yeh maybe she could go in for "Toast-rack" belly-dance.

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    NOTE TO SADIE AND KAYA..now that's sexy and it's bellydance!

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    No comment on the dance content in the rap video.

    I'm just hoping no one chooses this as a "hip and edgy" musical choice for any haflas anytime soon. I don't like the music, the lyrics, or the delivery.

    Or how about this song...has anyone seen a dancer use this music in a live event? There's a belly dancer in this video, too.

    YouTube - The Dead Weather - "I Cut Like A Buffalo" Version II (Official Video)

    This is the video that my clueless brother brought up over Christmas. Interesting combination of very-old-school fashion (aside from the Fauxlodias), and very modern music. I'm not sure it's a successful combination, and I'm not sure whether it helps or hurts society's view of our art in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizaj View Post
    NOTE TO SADIE AND KAYA..now that's sexy and it's bellydance!

    Samia! Samia! Also notice the absence of Stupid Body Tricks. Legs visable, but kept close together like a lady instead of a burlesque sprawl. Floor work (table work?) does not include simulted sex.

    I saw the infamous Kama Sutra of K&S- the whole dancing with slaves issue was tasteless, but it completely lost me about the oral sex presentation.

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    I had to skip through it. Aside from the obvious, I also can't stand the bad production. I've seen student music videos that were much better.

    I wonder what was their motive in doing something like this? Maybe they're friends with the rappers? Or friends with the producers? I can't think of a logical reason for why their involvement in something like that. They're already so well known that it can't be for fame unless they're moving onto more mainstream stuff...but seriously??? This looks like it's just gonna hurt their careers in the long run.

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    I'm wondering, what's the perceptional difference between Sadie and Dina? Dina has a reputation for raunchiness in both her dance and in her personal life.

    And aren't bellydancers, almost by definition, considered lewd in Arabic countries? (Or has this attitude begun to fade? I can't remember the last time I saw a thread on this...)

    I'm not justifying, advocating or approving the behavior of either lady, just wondering if folks who dislike Sadie for sexually-charged performances feel the same way about Dina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miranda Phoenix View Post
    I'm wondering, what's the perceptional difference between Sadie and Dina? Dina has a reputation for raunchiness in both her dance and in her personal life.

    And aren't bellydancers, almost by definition, considered lewd in Arabic countries? (Or has this attitude begun to fade? I can't remember the last time I saw a thread on this...)

    I'm not justifying, advocating or approving the behavior of either lady, just wondering if folks who dislike Sadie for sexually-charged performances feel the same way about Dina.
    I'm sorry apples and oranges, Dina does not simulate oral sex on stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miranda Phoenix View Post
    I'm wondering, what's the perceptional difference between Sadie and Dina? Dina has a reputation for raunchiness in both her dance and in her personal life.

    And aren't bellydancers, almost by definition, considered lewd in Arabic countries? (Or has this attitude begun to fade? I can't remember the last time I saw a thread on this...)

    I'm not justifying, advocating or approving the behavior of either lady, just wondering if folks who dislike Sadie for sexually-charged performances feel the same way about Dina.
    Dina's performances are sensual and in a way, sexual but NO WAY is it anything like what Sadie and Kaya did in that music video. That music video is pure, raunchy, simulated sex in the most degrading way.

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    Ah, I wasn't referring to either the Rakkasah debacle or that video (especially since there's really no dancing, of any sort, in the video, only gyrating).

    I was referring to the ladies' "regular" performances and their general reputations.

    Seems to me every culture in, even, every art form, has it's fringe element - the "oh-my-gosh-she/he-didn't-just-do-that/wear that/say that" is a well-established attention grabber - it's not a behavior specific to any one people. *shrug*

    But I'm thinking now this concept is off topic, since the OP is just about dishing on the video. So, back to your regularly scheduled show.....

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    I think it was a fair question, Miranda. I also think the answer about comparing apples and oranges was fair. S&K have been deliberately building a reputation for overt eroticism (to give soft porn a more elegant name) for a long time. As far as I can tell, Sadie has more mainstream videos available than Kaya, but performances of questionable taste have still marred her reputation as a serious dancer.

    Dina has a rep of being sexy and even raunchy, but with an element of humor that is completely lacking in S&K. I've seen her dance with Tito complete with butt pats, but it was done for laughs- there was no groping, no stroking, no heavy breathing, and certainly no simulated sex, either oral or otherwise. ( I thought it was pretty silly, but I'm told I simply don't understand Egyptian humor and that this sort of play is considered very funny in Egypt. Okay. Fair enough. It still ain't oral sex. )

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