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    Sorry, I do not belly dance but have been studying it as part of my analysis on how the body can move for many years. I am a Plastic Surgeon and my passion is sculpting the body not just for still photographs for journals, but in motion, living life to its fullest and enjoying activities such as dancing. I incorporated video documentation of the problem, surgical solution, and healing after surgery to better understand what I was doing and how I could improve my techniques. Whether my patients are stressed by how they look while swimming, playing volleyball, or soccer I have worked for years to restore what nature, weight loss, pregnancy took away.

    Besides motion, I have been working on emotion: the emotion of the problem, the emotion of the surgical sculpture, and the emotion of recovery.

    I also have been evolving how to perform my surgery with minimal patient discomfort and earliest return to activities. My Tummy Tuck patients often just use plain Tylenol and just a few stronger pain pills for their recovery.

    And yes, I do have quite a collection of Belly Dancing music on my iPod that I play while working on the computer and sometimes while performing my sculpture.

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    To the forum. I am intrigued, what are the names of some of your songs on your ipod. Mind you that is the only music on my ipod. I wouldn't have a clue who is the latest star on the top 20, nor would I know their music.
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    Welcome to the forum from a tummy-tucked dancer.
    "Well, now that we have seen each other," said the unicorn " if you'll believe in me, I'll believe in you."

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    Hi, Dr. Bermant, and welcome to the forum. We not only have a number of male dancers here, we also have dancer enthusiasts who are male. It's nice to hear that someone has made a serious study of the body in movement, especially in the context of bellydance, and is dedicated to helping his patients feel better about themselves. I hope you enjoy the forum; happy posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosaic View Post
    To the forum. I am intrigued, what are the names of some of your songs on your ipod. Mind you that is the only music on my ipod. I wouldn't have a clue who is the latest star on the top 20, nor would I know their music.
    ~Mosaic
    I have no clue what the top 20 are. Here are some of the albums I have on for one of my Tummy Tuck selections:

    Music for Bellydancing - Hussam Ramzy & Phil Thornton
    DrumSex Brent Lewis
    Sha Waza Solace
    Immortal Egypt Phil Thornton & Hossam Ramzy
    Enchanged Egypt Phil Thornton & Hossam Ramzy
    Cafe Arabica Ulaim Az Zama Orchestra
    Eastern Wind Elyahu & the Qadim Ensemble
    Planet Drum Mickey Hart

    there are quite a few others but they wander more off of bellydancing to other eclectic venues Asian / African such as Baka Beyond, Deep Forest, Angelique Kidgo, FJ & Living Souls, Midori, Vieux Farka Touré, and others.

    I often let the Genius feature take off after selecting a song.

    I started collecting performances online, but that got into a mess as patients were sending me their performances, so that got to be something I could not publish for privacy issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farasha Hanem View Post
    Hi, Dr. Bermant, and welcome to the forum. We not only have a number of male dancers here, we also have dancer enthusiasts who are male. It's nice to hear that someone has made a serious study of the body in movement, especially in the context of bellydance, and is dedicated to helping his patients feel better about themselves. I hope you enjoy the forum; happy posting.
    For movement of my own patient documentation, here is a
    Gallery of Videos Before and After Tummy Tuck that have been part of this process.

    In a different direction have you checked a prime performance of Groucho Marx doing Lydia the Tattooed Lady in his prime and shortly before his death. That evolution of body movement is a testament to the aging process and how the body is slowed down aging being the injury process. No, I know it is not belly dancing, but the body in motion.

    Michael Bermant, MD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanazel View Post
    Welcome to the forum from a tummy-tucked dancer.
    What were the changes that the surgery brought to your emotional comfort? How did your recovery compare to Recovery of Muscles After Tummy Tuck in a Belly Dancer?

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    My experience differs from that of the dancer featured in your video. I never recovered the flexibility and smoothness of undulation I had presurgery: I am numb in a band a couple of inches wide above the incision and have a glitch in stomach undulations at that point. My surgery was done in 1999; this is not likely to improve.

    I was aware that nerves could be cut in the course of surgery and was mentally prepared to live with any resulting debility in order to improve what was a significant deformity throughout my life. I should add that though my muscles were damaged during two pregnancies with 10.5 pound babies, my undulations were just fine until after the tummy tuck.

    Dancers need to be well aware of the possible side effects of surgery and seriously be willing to live with things like numbness and/or loss of movement before they decide to have a tummy tuck to improve a bit of jiggling. In my husband's words: girls are supposed to jiggle.

    By the way, if your patients manage to get by on Tylenol post surgery, they are either tougher than me (and I am a tough gal) or you have one hell of a technique. I have had a number of surgeries and this one had by far the most painful recovery period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanazel View Post
    My experience differs from that of the dancer featured in your video. I never recovered the flexibility and smoothness of undulation I had presurgery: I am numb in a band a couple of inches wide above the incision and have a glitch in stomach undulations at that point. My surgery was done in 1999; this is not likely to improve.

    I was aware that nerves could be cut in the course of surgery and was mentally prepared to live with any resulting debility in order to improve what was a significant deformity throughout my life. I should add that though my muscles were damaged during two pregnancies with 10.5 pound babies, my undulations were just fine until after the tummy tuck.

    Dancers need to be well aware of the possible side effects of surgery and seriously be willing to live with things like numbness and/or loss of movement before they decide to have a tummy tuck to improve a bit of jiggling. In my husband's words: girls are supposed to jiggle.

    By the way, if your patients manage to get by on Tylenol post surgery, they are either tougher than me (and I am a tough gal) or you have one hell of a technique. I have had a number of surgeries and this one had by far the most painful recovery period.
    I agree that education is power. Learning what anything offers or a particular surgeon's skills is putting the power of choice into your hands.

    Injury to nerves is part of any competent surgeon's discussion about Tummy Tuck surgery. It is part of the anatomy. However, although I caution my patients about such issues, most tell me that they regain sensation "completely" after surgery. This most likely is not correct from the anatomy viewpoint, but I do not know of anyone documenting return of sensation to this region over time. The methodology would involve Semmes Weinstein monofilients, Vibratron, and Heat / Cold numeric measurement. An extraordinarily difficult and time consuming task. This is something I have done for hand injuries and lip reconstructions, but not on the belly. In general however, what has not recovered by 2 years will not.

    You are also right about typical Pain Comfort After Tummy Tuck Surgery. That is why I embarked over a decade ago to evolve my Tumescent Tummy Tuck surgery that is done under local anesthesia with heavy sedation. Yes, not general anesthesia. It started this way. Liposuction surgery has always been comfortable for the patients. Tummy Tucks were miserable. The literature is filled with papers about long term local anesthesia injections, implanted pain pumps, and other techniques to deal with this surgery's pain. Yet, why were the liposuction patients so much more comfortable. I started out by changing the anesthesia for the Tummy Tucks to the same Tumescent used during liposuction instead of just a little local alone in the incision line as most surgeon employ. This was done under general anesthesia first. My anesthesia team then told me that they were not doing anything for the patient with the general. We then went to Tumescent with Heavy Sedation with standby general anesthesia. Well, we did not need the standby.

    We have been tracking our patients comfort level after surgery. The switch to tumescent anesthesia resulted in a stoppage of heavy pain medication use. We got a different problem, patients were not vomiting from too much pain medication! I then evolved our current framework of working up to what a patient needs instead of starting out too high. The early after surgery video documentation were complimenting the record keeping about the pain medication. I still do not know of other surgeons recording how tummy tuck patients moved so early after surgery. The patients with the older techniques usually would not move, they hurt! Yet, our Tumescent Tummy Tuck patients were up and about living life and returning to activities.

    You can find many other patient experiences about their comfort after this technique on my site. Unfortunately, I have not figured a way to link to the specific parts of each video where patients discuss their comfort already on my site. I do not relish going back over all of the videos and extracting a comfort video going between the various patients. But perhaps i will eventually get to that task. The closest I can get you to those experiences is using this Tummy Tuck Video Gallery. The videos with camera and audio icons will have the patient discussing their experiences. Eventually I will get to the older format videos and add the audio components that were removed many years ago as I was evolving what could and could not be put on the web.

    Hope this helps,

    Michael Bermant, MD
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    (Shanazel post; In my husband's words: girls are supposed to jiggle.


    I agree with your husband Shanazel "girls are supposed to jiggle", I think that some are forgetting what "belly dancing" is about, if you have weight you wish to cut, thats fine but I for one would rather take the non easy road and work out, if you wish to tighten up then keep on belly dancing, do yoga, strength tranning ect... but Tummy tuck? maybe if you are not a belly dancer,(more power to ya if your a tummy tucker) I have always lived by "work for what you have,and if I want a better body then I am willing to work for it but maybe thats just me ... But I would like to say that when I first started to belly dance I was 360 pounds...my pant size was a 25 and now I am 200 pounds with a pant size of 15 and I did that with belly dance, it takes work, but You would be the one who did it.

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