Belly dancers required

[byjove]

Belly dancer required

Just wanted to pop in and mention that what one is paid for a salaried dance position and what one is paid for a one time show are two different things. A salary is never calculated off of what your one time show rate would be. All expenses paid, and three thousand monthly salary is decent.

Dear Salome.Thanks for replying to my thread.I'am glad you appreciate that this is not a scam.A return airfare is the same as a round trip.Out here the terminology is return fare.Your understanding of the contract is spot on. US$3000/- per month equates to US$ 100/day.Which is the upper end of our offer.We have put a range of US$ 50 - 100/- because the offer also includes 2 musicians.Any options that you can suggest.Can you recommend a trio for this enquiry ? Regards.Genesis Events

 

[byjove]

How weird is it to call an airline to ask for a one way ticket to a mid east country. Most countries will not even allow you to enter with out a return ticket. Note he taughts a return ticket not round trip.

Scam!::lol:

Dear All.Our posting seems to have created quite a discussion.Let us clarify a few aspects.This is no scam and it is a genuine enquiry.Genesis Events as mentioned by Mosaic (thanks for her looking up our website) is a sucessful talent placement and event management company based in Bahrain.Regarding the payment of US$ 50 - 100/- please note that the break up is as follows : Belly dancer US$ 90/day and the two musicians US$ 60/day.All expenses paid for including Visa,Air ticket (from artists country to Bahrain and return fare back to artists country - We call it return fare and you call it Round fare) Accomodation and food.Hope this clarifies all the doubts.Regards.Genesis

 

[Yame]

I am not advocating for this position. I'm simply making some comments in general. I missed the return airfare comment. Should always be round trip.

All expenses paid and 2 30 minute sets is standard and an offer for 3 grand a month is decent. You may think 15,000 a month is what is deserved but I challenge you to find a cruise line, resort, theme park, 5 star hotel, or casino in the world that would pay that. Unless you have some mainstream weight. I've worked in this area of the business for a long time, as a dancer and as an agent. I've booked dancers (of all genres) for some of the biggest clients around and 5000 monthly salary is toward the high end for solo artists doing a daily production. I mean there is always exceptions but that has been my experience from client budgest in USA, Europe, and the Near, Middle and Far East. Alternatively, a one time show is costly. It's not $100 USD but thousands.

As far as I'm concerned a day in the life of these kinds of contracts is pretty luxurious. When I am out on one, my day goes something like this. I wake up and call room service, which I enjoy in bed. Then the staff come in and make my bed and clean my room and do my laundry and iron my costume. I spend my day at the gym, the steam room, the pool, working at my craft, maybe taking some of the city in etc. whatever I want to do. At night I get ready and do my show and that is the life. There are drawbacks, like being away from home/friends/family for extended periods. But it is pretty pampered and you are well taken care of.

Wow, interesting insights! Thanks a lot, Salome!

Food and accommodation, airfare and visa all accounted for, I suppose $90/day might actually be a decent deal, then. But I have no basis of comparison, so I'd love to hear more from you, and from others who have been in similar contracts.

How many nights a week is the dancer expected to work, and does she get paid for her off days?

Are there companies that offer 1 month contracts, or are they usually 3 to 6 months?

Please feel free to PM me with answers if you think I am hijacking this topic.

 

[Salome]

Wow, interesting insights! Thanks a lot, Salome!

Food and accommodation, airfare and visa all accounted for, I suppose $90/day might actually be a decent deal, then. But I have no basis of comparison, so I'd love to hear more from you, and from others who have been in similar contracts.

How many nights a week is the dancer expected to work, and does she get paid for her off days?

Are there companies that offer 1 month contracts, or are they usually 3 to 6 months?

Please feel free to PM me with answers if you think I am hijacking this topic.

If you are interested in knowing about that you might want to check out
Dancing Abroad - The Players
Dancing Abroad - The Dangers
Dancing Abroad - The Bare Minimum

 

[Yame]

If you are interested in knowing about that you might want to check out
Dancing Abroad - The Players
Dancing Abroad - The Dangers
Dancing Abroad - The Bare Minimum

Thanks! :dance:

edit: I had just sent you a PM before seeing this response, BTW. I think these articles might clear up a lot of the questions I asked there, so you can feel free to ignore them

 

[Za Linda]

As far as I'm concerned a day in the life of these kinds of contracts is pretty luxurious. When I am out on one, my day goes something like this. I wake up and call room service, which I enjoy in bed. Then the staff come in and make my bed and clean my room and do my laundry and iron my costume. I spend my day at the gym, the steam room, the pool, working at my craft, maybe taking some of the city in etc. whatever I want to do. At night I get ready and do my show and that is the life. There are drawbacks, like being away from home/friends/family for extended periods. But it is pretty pampered and you are well taken care of.

LOL Even before I read Salome's response to this offer, I was thinking - this is actually a working holiday! :dance:

With getting there/visa/food/accommodation taken care of, you turn up to do your thing in the evening, and the rest of day is yours to do as you need or wish. Think of the people you would be able to meet, the markets you could frequent, the music you would hear, the food you could eat! Think of being able to spend the whole day practicing a new choreo without the disruptions and distractions of life at home. Think of having "x months of contract work in the Middle East" on your dance resume! How much would this experience be worth to you?

If I were doing this gig, I'd treat it as an opportunity to immerse in an unfamiliar culture, and hone my stage craft.

Anyway, that's my take. Everyone would make of this offer what they will.

P.S. In Australia, return trip = round trip = you travel to your destination, then you travel home again. How can "return" mean anything else?

 

[Greek Bonfire]

I'm glad Salome cleared this up. However, the originator should've done this in the first place. I doubt it was done maliciously, but how would anyone else know if Salome hadn't told us? But I am glad it was not a scam and that there was more to it.

 

[Mosaic]

I'm glad Salome cleared this up. However, the originator should've done this in the first place. I doubt it was done maliciously, but how would anyone else know if Salome hadn't told us? But I am glad it was not a scam and that there was more to it.

Well I understood what the OP was asking and offering, as I said in a previous post if I was wanting to take on such a job ( & would if 20 or so years younger) I would have been contacting the OP and sussing the whole thing out. I don't think job offers from anywhere or of any kind are spelt out in fine detail (well not here anyway), the interested begin the process of checking things out. They stop spoon feeding us in this part of the world when we hit the senior years of secondary college

It seems expectations & understanding definitely do differ from country to country, even English speaking ones.

Having lived in cultures far from my own and non English speaking ones at that & also being lucky to have travelled quite extensively I have learnt to adjust my expectations and to seek the meaning behind anything that has perplexed me from an original source. So For me the OP was just a simple but reasonably generous advertisement for dancers.

Genesis, are you from the UK? or some other English speaking country, your written English is impeccable. Also your user name to me is very UK English By Jove is a term I grew up with in NZ. I still use it, mind you most Aussies don't seem so familiar with it.
~Mosaic

 

[Shakti]

With to much time on my hands- I found out a possible explaination behind the term return.
cut and paste from the website:
"In the early days of railways many people were migrant labourers in the UK. Migrant workers would buy a one-way journey, or single-journey ticket, a 'single'. The ticket-office clerks got into the habit of asking people if they wanted to return to the same railway station. "Do you want to return." might have become "Do you want a return ticket?". By leaving out the word 'ticket' as an obvious part of a question in a ticket office, this would have become "Do you want a return?", then "Single or return?"


'Single' and 'return' both apply to a journey, as is obvious to a ticket clerk. The rule of grammar which allows obvious words to be omitted is called ellipsis."
Again I know this Is TMI!

 

[Bellydance Oz]

In Australia, return trip = round trip = you travel to your destination, then you travel home again. How can "return" mean anything else?

I had the same reaction - a "return airfare" in British or Australian English is a round trip and we find it puzzling that anyone could think it means anything else. After all, to "return" means to "come back" - and how can you come back from somewhere, if you don't go in the first place?

After considering it for some time, I realize maybe the Americans thought they were only offering to pay the fare home at the end of the gig, not the fare to get there?

 

[Greek Bonfire]

I'm learning something new here everyday. I went back and read it again - sorry, I just missed a few things. The last thing I want to do is turn this into a b*tchfest and gang up on someone.

 

[Shakti]

Yes, that is exactly what I thought, airfare home but not to destination.

 

[Shanazel]

I just didn't read the ad thoroughly, am suspicious by nature, and so promptly placed my foot in my mouth. :doh: My apologies to the original poster.