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    Dear Azeeza,
    On my site is an article called "The Student/Instructor Relationship in middle Eastern Dance". Please gfee free to print it and present a copy to your teacher. It discusses precepts of a healthy relationship between the two parties.
    (Raqs Azar in the library).

    I am TOTALLY against instructors taking advantage of their position by abusing their studetns, either verbally, emotionally or physically. Students and teachers are on equal footing in this life except that teachers have a few more years and experience (at least hopefully) than do the students. NO INSTRCUTOR HAS THE RIGHT TO TREAT THEIR STUDENTS WITH ANYTHING LESS THAN GREAT RESPECT. WITHOUT THE STUDENTS, WE HAVE NO ONE TO TEACH!!!! Nothing makes me madder than when teachers forget that.
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    How on earth does an abusive teacher manage to stay in business?
    "Well, now that we have seen each other," said the unicorn " if you'll believe in me, I'll believe in you."

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    Dear Shanazel,
    It was the norm in ballet classes for many years, for teachers to be abusive. I can't remember for sure, but I think it was Najinski who used to refer to his students as his "horses", meaning they worked for him and did as they were told. I have heard stories that would curl your hair from women who used to be ballerinas. This abuse came under the term "discipline". The dancer had to be "disciplined" enough in her attitude to take all kinds of verbal, emotional and even physical abuse. Gelsey Kirkland told her story to the world and was shunned by the ballet community for years, but I see she is now teaching seminars.
    I have seen several Middle Eastern dance teachers act the same way. Dahlena used to hit people in class. A dancer named Nejat used to be horribly verbally abusive to dancers. I saw them do it. For some reason a lot of dancers think this is normal treatment.
    To me, equally abusive are teachers who do not take the time to treat students as indivual people with their own learning talents and capabilities and needs. I think people have put up with it because they are afraid to speak up for themselves. I will now walk out and demand my money back if I am in a class where I see the teacher abusing ANYONE! I was also afriad to speak out when I was younger, but no more!
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    Dahlena HIT people? We call that assault and battery in Wyoming.

    Wow, A'isha. I have been fairly fortunate in my experience with both ballet and belly dance teachers, though I can recall academic teachers and an attorney or two who were less than professional in their behavior toward students and employees.

    Okay, abused dancers, rise up and throw off your oppressors! You have nothing to lose but bruises to your body and psyche. Next time you get a bully instead of a teacher, do the A'isha Walk and demand your money back. If enough of us protest, those people will either change their attitudes or go out of business indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniseteph View Post
    Who is she abusing - her students? Or is she just being bitchy about other dancers/teachers?
    Both.

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    Thank you everyone for your input. I REALLY appreciate it.

    Azeeza

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    Quote Originally Posted by A'isha Azar View Post
    Dear Azeeza,
    On my site is an article called "The Student/Instructor Relationship in middle Eastern Dance". Please gfee free to print it and present a copy to your teacher. It discusses precepts of a healthy relationship between the two parties.
    (Raqs Azar in the library).

    I am TOTALLY against instructors taking advantage of their position by abusing their studetns, either verbally, emotionally or physically. Students and teachers are on equal footing in this life except that teachers have a few more years and experience (at least hopefully) than do the students. NO INSTRCUTOR HAS THE RIGHT TO TREAT THEIR STUDENTS WITH ANYTHING LESS THAN GREAT RESPECT. WITHOUT THE STUDENTS, WE HAVE NO ONE TO TEACH!!!! Nothing makes me madder than when teachers forget that.
    Regards,
    A'isha


    Thank you for posting this Aisha..eh..if all the teachers are like you the life could be beutifull


    Lots of love,
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    Last edited by Princess; 12-19-2006 at 11:52 PM.

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    Hi Everyone, This forum is so supportive and I'm so glad to participate in it. Just a side tangent on this thread, the inner strength one needs to break up with an abusive teacher is the same strength we need to use we break away from any unhealthy situation or person. Through life experience, one recognizes that life is too short to be the perpetual doormat. One doesn't have to be nasty when facing a nasty situation, but assertive and secure in your feelings and actions. Many times, there is nobody to help one see the light, offer support and advice therefore people walk through life afraid to speak for themselves and others.
    To all my forum sisters and brothers, this is the place where you can rant, vent and receive support and advice.
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    A bit of unprofessional bitching about other dancers or teachers I might put up with if she was teaching anything useful and there aren't many alternative teachers, but this sounds dreadful.

    Just can't get my head round the idea of paying for tuition and getting abused in return.

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    The teacher I apprenticed with for a while was a little on the abusive side. Some of it we could let go because she has some health problems and was/is in pain a great deal of the time. She had another apprentice too and my being a bit more independant in my thought processes, I took a lot more of it than she did. If I taught a step differently, I got yelled at, and the other apprentice could do it differently and it was ok because she was learning how to teach it . I found out later that several of the people dropped out (we had this like 80% drop -out rate) because of the way I got treated by the teacher. (found out via mutual friends) that blew me away. I went out on my own with another friend and its been great, but that teacher doesn't exactly acknowledge that I'm teaching too. I think its pretty funny and she keeps asking me to help her with classes but not gonna happen. I was real open with her about how we disagreed and we have just agreed to disagree.

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