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    Question The Zills!?

    i was wondering when most belly dancers learn to play the Zills. Is it ever to early, or is it the sooner the better??

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    I'd get started as soon as possible.

    My experience with zills began six months after I learned a few basic dance movements. Once the zills came on, it was like I had to relearn (is that a word) how to dance all over again.

    It's much easier to dance without them later on than to have to learn how to dance WITH them years later.

    Just my opinion,

    Azeeza

    PS When practicing, move your arms all around and walk or try and dance with them (still moving your arms around). Zills are eaiser to play sitting down and not moving, but if you are going to dance while playing them, I suggest you get into that habit.

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    Thank you

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    Hi Tiffany,learning to play zills is very exciting and really adds texture and variety to your dance. How early you start depends on how well grounded you are in basic technique. Zills are a percussive instrument and developing knowledge of Middle Eastern rhythms is essential.
    I started learning zills after 6 mos of dancing and the trick is something has to become automatic: either the dance steps or the zill pattern.That's why having a strong foundation in the dance is important. There's a clip of Tarik on the youtube forum dancing with zills, watch what he does with his arms.
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    I started learning zills with my first teacher in the first class. My current teacher has threatened a zill choreography for next term (I've been dancing with her for about 8 months).

    Something that I've found useful recently is to air-zill when walking and listening to music. The fingers start to get more co-ordinated without noise, and if nobody is around, throw in a few arm or dance movements.

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    I would have loved to have started learning zills from the beginning but my first teacher didn't/doesn't play them at all.

    After 3.5 years, I have just recently performed with zills for the first time, and to Karsilama at that.

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    I have given this topic a lot of thought after we discussed it on this forum the last time (I'll find the thread for you in a few minutes)... And I have decided that I'd prefer to take zills on later. Like Yasmine said - you first have to get a hold of the dance basics, before adding new "distractions" When exactly that point would come, I have no idea, as it varies from person to person. I know that I definitely wasn't ready after my first 6 months of dancing

    But indeed, zills are a very important part of dancing. Playing them contributes very much to your perception of rhythms. Dancing with them trains your body coordination. And lets face it, they are just fun!

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    I've another question regarding zills (if I may ask it in this thread). What is important to keep in mindr when you want to buy them? I might get them for my birthday but I don't know so much about them yet as I only played them 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I've another question regarding zills (if I may ask it in this thread). What is important to keep in mindr when you want to buy them? I might get them for my birthday but I don't know so much about them yet as I only played them 3 times.
    Hi Moon, Buy double slotted zills,meaning there are two slots on the top of each zill in which you place flat elastic. I use Saroyan zills because he makes and sells a variety of zills rom beginner to professional. here's a link:Finger Cymbals for Students and Advanced Dancers
    Yasmine

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    Hi Moon!

    I was lucky that i could buy my zills from my teacher. But i have other ones then she is using in class, which are very light and have a high tone. Mines are heavy and have a deeper sound. A bit like a "zaanse klok" ( a typical dutch clockwork) but not that deep. I think they are from Turkey.They also have a double slot and i agree on that one with Yasmine
    Maybe you can ask where your teacher is buying zills and what she would recomment. Maybe she is nice to bring some for you in class to show...
    I don't know where you live in Holland, but if you are in or near Den Haag, you can go to BellydanceSaray, it is a specialist bellydance store.

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