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    Question Shoulder shimmies for the well-endowed

    I'm new to bellydance and at the moment using dvds for guidance (haven't found a teacher/class yet ) so please forgive me if my question tips the scales towards "silly" but here is my issue: when I attempt to do a continuous shoulder shimmy at moderate pace, a pendulum effect builds with "the ladies." Now a little jiggle would be fine, normal, but this is beyond that. It actually feels like an opposing force.

    My first solution would be to make sure I have a good supportive top, but I'm already wearing an Enell, the platinum standard of sports bras. I don't think one exists that can do more to prevent unwanted movement. Perhaps this effect is normal and it's something those with larger bosoms simply get used to, but it doesn't feel that way. None of the dancers in the videos I have look bigger than a B-Cup, so I'm not sure what's normal.

    I'd love some advice.

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    It may well be that you're going too fast. My advice is that if you're giving yourself a black eye from shoulder shimmies, you need to put a speed limit on them and stick to it.

    As a generously endowed dancer, I have found that less is more with regard to shoulder shimmies. Control the movement, stick to the speed limit (approximately 1/2 hip shimmy speed) and you will be fine.

    ETA - make CERTAIN your sports bra is designed for dancing. Dancing is higher impact on the boobs than even jogging.
    Last edited by Darshiva; 04-07-2011 at 02:52 AM. Reason: More advice

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    I'm currently practicing these and my advice is to be a bit smaller in the movements and maybe focus the movement on the back of your shoulders, not the front. I don't know if that makes sense? I think it helps with the "swaying" in front. You can't reall avoid all of the jiggling

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    I have seen on the web somewhere instructions on how to get maximum jiggle and many people consider a boob shimmy to be the authentic Egyptian move. However, if you want to reduce the wobble, make sure that your shoulders go either forwards from neutral and back to place, or back and neutral, not both. Practice more slowly until you have it.

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    Yes I agree with Darshiva, I am also breast heavy,(like 42DD) so controling your speed is key, a good belly dance bra would help this, I make all my own so I make the straps well placed in order to keep good control along with my ability with the shoulder shimmy, but this may also not change the fact that they may want to go along for the ride so what I do is have a well timed shoulder shimmy and a balance, so if I put a shoulder shimmy in a dance I do it in a turn, or with a small back lean, or a quick small one then freeze then another quick small one freeze this looks nice and the shoulder shimmy is done without the girls doing a dance as well though I will do a chest shimmy sometimes as well the girls like that one

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    Go slower, smaller, and subtler. With big "girls" any little movement will be visible, so there's no need to go all out!
    I'm pretty small so I can't commiserate, but I have heard the experiences of my larger-busted friends and it does seem to be pretty normal among them, for some of them it hurts to do a vigorous chest shimmy.
    So, don't do it! Find out the optimal speed and size for you--it's probably different for everyone, so find out the one that works best for you--and stick with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yame View Post
    Go slower, smaller, and subtler. With big "girls" any little movement will be visible, so there's no need to go all out!
    I'm pretty small so I can't commiserate, but I have heard the experiences of my larger-busted friends and it does seem to be pretty normal among them, for some of them it hurts to do a vigorous chest shimmy.
    So, don't do it! Find out the optimal speed and size for you--it's probably different for everyone, so find out the one that works best for you--and stick with that!

    Yame you got that one right, I try to never do to many vigorous chest shimmies, A more graceful speed is better, I may throw out one when the music is fast but not often, small, graceful, and controlled speed is key

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    My tips as a lady with F cup boobs-

    Keep it small. Boobs magnify movement, so you don't need more than a couple of inches travel to get your jiggle on.

    Keep your posture perfect. Push your ribs up, roll your shoulders down and back, keep a lot of tension between your shoulder blades. That helps control the movement so it doesn't turn into a tit waving monstrosity.

    Keep it in the shoulders. You're aiming for a see saw movement with your shoulders- as one goes back the other comes forward. Don't let it creep down to your lower torso muscles or it will become a chest shimmy.

    Keep it short. If you're following dvds with drill sections, just skip the shoulder shimmy section. You're unlikely to ever be in a performance situation where you need to do more than the odd accent, so if shoulder shimmying for more than a second or two makes you feel like you might knock yourself out, don't do it!

    You may also find that wearing a nice solid underwired bra helps keep things in check- I'm not a fan of sports bras though so I may be biased

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    Thank you everyone for the valuable info!

    You lovely ladies came up with a lot of good pointers and it's already helping. One more question if you don't mind: do you have a recommendation for a general dance bra for a DD+ cup?

    The Enell is a fantastic, supportive bra, but I'm beginning to think it might not be the best choice for bellydance since it doesn't lift & separate.

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    I'm not sure how useful my recommendations would be since I'm in the UK, but I favour plunge style bras with moulded cups and underwire.

    freya deco bra and Marks & Spencer push up bra are my current favourites for a combination of cleavage and security.

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