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    Quote Originally Posted by astro_girl View Post
    And, to some frustration I have experienced the varying ways that musicians play so-called common rhythms.
    In my (rather limited) experience with live professional drummers, they will play a recognizable version of the rhythm about twice, and then go off on some bizarre tangent that you've never heard and will never hear again


    It's a great idea to collect as many rhythm id CDs as you can afford, just to get used to hearing a variety of versions of one rhythm. Suhaila has some, Nourhan has some, Jalilah has one, Uncle Mafufo has a couple, Billy Woods has one ... And the DVD Heartbeat of Bellydance (made by World Dance New York) has a great section on drum rhythms and dancing to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post
    In my (rather limited) experience with live professional drummers, they will play a recognizable version of the rhythm about twice, and then go off on some bizarre tangent that you've never heard and will never hear again


    It's a great idea to collect as many rhythm id CDs as you can afford, just to get used to hearing a variety of versions of one rhythm. Suhaila has some, Nourhan has some, Jalilah has one, Uncle Mafufo has a couple, Billy Woods has one ... And the DVD Heartbeat of Bellydance (made by World Dance New York) has a great section on drum rhythms and dancing to them.
    Great suggestions, and ayeee...I have Uncle M.'s and the Heartbeat of BD already! Will check out the others as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post
    Samira, since you're taking ATS classes, you'll probably want the Fat Chance dvd that covers cymbals -- I'm not sure which volume this is, though.

    FCBD Tribal Basics Vol. 3 Zils

    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post
    ATS is a structured form, with specific cymbal patterns used, so your mileage may vary when it comes to the usefulness of the other, Oriental-focused, cymbal dvds.
    And vice versa: If you are oriental-focused (and have some musical theory in your background), this is not the DVD you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post
    Samira, since you're taking ATS classes, you'll probably want the Fat Chance dvd that covers cymbals -- I'm not sure which volume this is, though.

    ATS is a structured form, with specific cymbal patterns used, so your mileage may vary when it comes to the usefulness of the other, Oriental-focused, cymbal dvds.
    I believe it is volume three that focuses mainly on zills, but I am not sure. I just ordered the first volume as the teacher recommended it and I think it also talks a little bit about zills.

    Thanks for the advice. Still new and have a lot to learn.

    Edit-I guess I was right about which volume, thanks Daimona.
    Last edited by DesertRoseSamira; 04-27-2011 at 08:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertRoseSamira View Post
    I believe it is volume three that focuses mainly on zills, but I am not sure. I just ordered the first volume as the teacher recommended it and I think it also talks a little bit about zills.
    You're welcome, Samira. Vol. 1 has a small chapter about zils as well, but if I remember correctly (it has been a while since I saw it), they refer to vol. 3 for further instruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertRoseSamira View Post
    I believe it is volume three that focuses mainly on zills, but I am not sure. I just ordered the first volume as the teacher recommended it and I think it also talks a little bit about zills.

    Thanks for the advice. Still new and have a lot to learn.

    Edit-I guess I was right about which volume, thanks Daimona.
    It is Volume 3, and there is a review of it on my web site at this link: Tribal Basics Volume 3 - Zils, by Carolena Nericcio of FatChanceBellyDance: A Video Review By Shira

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    Good to know it that there is more than just this one dvd with Ansuya about zills. The first one is really good.

    Thank you a lot for this info

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    May I suggest Artemis's Zill Speak - Vol 1 of the 2 part Cymbals Speak? It has a 40 page instructional booklet included with the CD. Many people love it.
    Amazon.com: Zill Speak - How to Play Finger Cymbals from A(lmee) to Z(ills): Elizabeth Artemis Mourat: Music

    Vol 2 Sagat Speak teaches Egyptian patterns with the numbers as well. That too has a 40 page booklet - but is designed for sagat rather than zills. This article explains the difference:
    Gilded Serpent, Belly Dance News & Events , You Say Zills, I say Sagat

    For rhythm identifications - this CD has 25 different rhythms and 31 tracks:
    The Henkesh Brothers | Pulse of the Sphinx: Volume 2 - Rhythm Drills | CD Baby
    You can listen to samples on line and download the whole album. It is played by the Henkesh Brothers from Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentine View Post
    May I suggest Artemis's Zill Speak - Vol 1 of the 2 part Cymbals Speak? It has a 40 page instructional booklet included with the CD. Many people love it.
    Amazon.com: Zill Speak - How to Play Finger Cymbals from A(lmee) to Z(ills): Elizabeth Artemis Mourat: Music

    Vol 2 Sagat Speak teaches Egyptian patterns with the numbers as well. That too has a 40 page booklet - but is designed for sagat rather than zills. This article explains the difference:
    Gilded Serpent, Belly Dance News & Events , You Say Zills, I say Sagat

    For rhythm identifications - this CD has 25 different rhythms and 31 tracks:
    The Henkesh Brothers | Pulse of the Sphinx: Volume 2 - Rhythm Drills | CD Baby
    You can listen to samples on line and download the whole album. It is played by the Henkesh Brothers from Egypt.
    I just bought the first two a few months ago and LOVE them!! I don't have the 3rd one yet.

    Seriously, the enclosed booklet is worth the purchase price alone. Great job, you guys!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post
    I just bought the first two a few months ago and LOVE them!! I don't have the 3rd one yet. Seriously, the enclosed booklet is worth the purchase price alone. Great job, you guys!!!
    Thank you!

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