Google and Youtube?

khanjar

New member
What's going on with Google and Youtube, I know they are changing their privacy policy, but asking for telephone number to verify accounts, getting a bit intrusive aren't they ?
 

Shanazel

Moderator
More than a bit, I'd say, but I have a nasty suspicious mind and a growing resentment of all these attempts to track me via internet, etc. :mad:
 

Erik

New member
DK if this is related but some time ago I began receiving a flood of email. I now have 1784 emails and most of them are trying to sell me a product or service, but I doubt that YouTube is the culprit for the following reason. I have two email addresses, and I used the older one to start an account with YouTube. This email address has only 212 emails; also mostly sales pitches of some kind, but they are all from businesses whom I have done business with before, and it took a couple of years for that many to accumulate. With my newer email address the junk keeps flooding in. I will delete a bunch of them whenever I sign in, and when I sign in again there are more. :confused:
 

Darshiva

Moderator
The phone number requests are just info-farming on the part of google. They will sell that info to the highest bidder, don't be fooled. However, you CAN access your email by just going to the google search home page & clicking on your already-signed-into account.

On no account should you ever give information online that you wouldn't be happy giving to a complete stranger.
 

Aniseteph

New member
I use a different email address for YT so I know they aren't responsible for the spam I get. So far. I dunno how the latest avalanche was triggered, but the finger of suspicion points to someone who has my main email and my ebay email. The only organisation who regularly uses both of those is a UK belly dance organisation. :confused:

I sign out from Google these days. I'm really skeeved out by those phones that have face recognition to log in - so your phone recognises you, and they know where your phone is, there's face recognition on Facebook... one day they will track you down the street and send you texts about whatever you've been looking at on-line just as you are passing a relevant shop. STOP IT ALREADY!

On the plus side this could one day be a great CSI plot where a suspect was somewhere else as proved by Google and his phone, but it was a clever ruse blah blah blah (and when I say great I mean kinda obvious, needs more obscure genetics and unfeasible toxicology).

OTOH George Orwell and 1984 and Big Brother watching you via telescreens? He had NO IDEA.
 

Mosaic

Super Moderator
I have 3 gmail accounts and the only time I was asked for a ph number or an alternative email addy was when I originally signed up for an account, they use that so if you lose you password they can send it to either your ph or if you elect another email account to your elected email account, I just give them a different email addy, never a ph number, same as on FB or anywhere I never give phone numbers. If I had to give a ph number i would give a home ph as they can't spam a home phone and if people phone trying to sell stuff they get a short shift from me, as I am on the don't call register .... & I am "polite" my husband isn't, so they don't want to get him!
~Mosaic
 

khanjar

New member
I am seeking answers on the net regards Google asking for telephone numbers and I am seeing an awful lot where Google is claiming the person concerned has had their account hacked, therefore necessitating the demand for a telephone number so they can send a text or a robotised voice message giving a new password to access those accounts.

My question is, is Google's security so lax that hackers can access accounts so easily, or is it this is just a ploy to harvest yet more information from users ?

I will not be supplying my telephone number to any search engine authority and that, because I do not wish to be spammed through my cell phone, and that because I no longer trust Google since they backtracked on their principles.

Right now I am engaged in research as to a more honest search provider, and if it means changing email accounts, then so be it, as those who have my email details can be accessed by good old anonymous snail mail to be informed of the necessary changes.

As to face book, that place has become just plain nasty, it's attitude to user privacy plain sucks,migrated to Gmail+ I did, but fortunately I had learned from face book that they are not to be trusted so nothing of mine that I care about is on Gmail, I might even rekindle my old Myspace account, as they despite the html that was necessary, never gave me cause for concern.

The trouble with anything that becomes popular online, is they always sell out to commercialism.
 
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Kashmir

New member
I'm using duckduckgo.com - but for advanced searches you need to know the search syntax such as belly dance site:.nz
 

Erik

New member
Text for Aniseteph:

BEDLAH UR LOOKING AT IS RIGHT 4 U AND STEAL AT 25% OFF BUY IT :lol:

Ignorance is strength. Freedom is slavery. Big Brother is watching you.
 
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Amanda (was Aziyade)

Well-known member
I will not be supplying my telephone number to any search engine authority and that, because I do not wish to be spammed through my cell phone, and that because I no longer trust Google since they backtracked on their principles.

I NEVER, in ten years of service, got an unsolicited text or unwanted text on my phone -- until I registered my phone with google. I am SOO mad that I did that. Now I get at least 2-3 spam texts a week, PLUS Google themselves keep calling me wanting to sell me advertising! I keep telling them that I don't need to take out ads because if you are looking for belly dance classes or a belly dancer in my town, no matter how you word it, my site still comes up first.

I'm waiting for the day when google makes you pay to be listed in their search engine, just like the yellowpages. The era of the useful and free internet is almost over.
 

mahsati_janan

New member
I NEVER, in ten years of service, got an unsolicited text or unwanted text on my phone -- until I registered my phone with google. I am SOO mad that I did that. Now I get at least 2-3 spam texts a week, PLUS Google themselves keep calling me wanting to sell me advertising! I keep telling them that I don't need to take out ads because if you are looking for belly dance classes or a belly dancer in my town, no matter how you word it, my site still comes up first.

I'm waiting for the day when google makes you pay to be listed in their search engine, just like the yellowpages. The era of the useful and free internet is almost over.

That's really odd. I have my numbers (home and business) registered with my google accounts and I never receive any spam and google has never contacted me about advertising via my phone. I wonder if there is an account setting that does it.

Personally, I haven't had any problems with them whatsoever. The phone number is used to verify that it is me if anyone tries to steal my account. While google doesn't often get hacked, people do often share their passwords via phishing emails or use the same passwords on multiple sites that do get hacked and then you can be locked out of your account without a separate means of verification. Google has my phone number and alternate email address, but I haven't had any increase in spam on either.
 
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khanjar

New member
Well, my personal online security is hot, I am careful where I go and run a mac with security settings set to maximum and on the mac, about the best security/anti virus, anti intrusion program known to mac users, because contrary to popular opinion, macs do get hacked, not often, but they do, and with that, passwords are all different for every site I vist yet google reckon I have been hacked and want my mobile phone number to verify me. Again, is their security so lax they can allow this and know about it, where I do not, only for what they tell me which to me is highly suspect since they changed their user privacy policy.

Now as far as I know google has not got my cell phone number, but quite recently my operator; orange merged with another lesser and more problematic company and since the merger I have been plagued with spam. I complain to my operator and they say it is nothing to do with them, yet users of the group that merged with orange used to complain regularly about spam.

So is it these wonderful services we all use, might say one thing when we inquire, but do another completely contrary to their stated policy ?

The time is coming I fear where all this new technology that offered so much bright hope, many will migrate from to what they had before all this new fangled technology changed their ways. Many of us remember what it was like before and perhaps we can go there again, as one thing is for sure aside from the very useful forums on the internet like this, the internet is a place for lies.
 
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