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    Default Private Lessons?

    I'm happy with my teachers and the classes I am taking, (although sometimes it's so crowded there is no room to do the floor stretches!)
    But I'm starting to wonder about private lessons-at least in the future.
    Does there come a point for a serious student when private lessons are necessary/more beneficial to become the best dancer you can be?
    Is it common for an advanced student to take them?
    Or is it just as well to take the advanced group classes and some workshops?

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    Do what you feel is right for you.

    I started with a course of ten private lessons, I learned quickly then went on to classes where I learned more slowly, but it is in my mind to seek more than the weekly one hour class, to what end, I don't know, but for the present, because I enjoy learning this dance and have new ideas that need to be addressed where in class there is not much possibility of that, but cost is always a concern, so for me, I have to be patient and watch out for workshops and such which might go some way to answering my specific needs.

    But when it is I get into employment, then more options will become available to me.

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    So you learned quickly with the private lessons? If you get more out of them then it would be worth the extra cost I guess. Cost if definetly a factor for me too!

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    I learned much quicker with private lessons, in fact nearly the full repertoire the class was learning I learned quickly and well in only ten hours, then I joined the class and became static, just practising and practising but with some combinations and choreos so we learned how it all fits together.

    Yes, private lessons are beneficial, but what one also has to consider is why, what is the aim apart from getting better, are you to be a solo dancer out on your own, or do you like the group thing, if the latter then learning privately prevents the group interaction, but there is also the possibility that at the speed a group or class learns what one has learned privately can be undone.

    But with groups of dancers do you dance as a group, or do you dance on your own within the group, myself, I tend to try and adopt the latter principle, because I know if I rely on others for the cues, then, I will mess up as I am being lazy and letting others do all the work and if that happens, then comes the question; why dance at all.

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    Private lessons can be quite beneficial. Choose your instructor carefully, paying attention to their preferred style and how it fits in with yours. If you can, get a good look at any footage you can find of them performing, it will give you an idea of their style and will also give you ideas for private lesson topics.

    Always book a private lesson with a clear idea of what you want to learn, that way you will get the best use of your instructor's time.

    You may get value from taking a private lesson with your existing instructor (particularly if you are having issues with a particular move, etc) but I feel that you will benefit more from private lessons outside your comfort zone. Find someone with that something you want in your dance and book a private lesson with them.
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    I've had private lessons trying to fix aspects of technique that needed an expert eye and were taking longer than time available in class to improve on. Not with a view to being professional, just being the kind of person who, if doing something at all, wants to do it as well as I can.

    Maybe it has just been my bad luck, or the small cities and towns I am usually in, but I don't feel I've had value for money yet. Even after going for teachers whose style was what I wanted and whose students I have seen are very good, and specifying what I wanted from the lesson, it has mostly gone like: "I'd like to work on X, which I feel is Y at the moment" "Ooh, yes, you could do this... or this..." as the teacher goes swirling off around the studio. When they pause near me, there's my chance to say, "Looks good, now can you watch me try?" So they stop for 5 seconds, watch a bit then carry on dancing "Like this... then you could do this.... or this...."

    Then there was the one who took me through what could have been a class lesson focusing on one aspect. After about 45 minutes I asked for feedback and she replied "I haven't really seen you dance yet."



    I persist in believing that there are teachers out there who actually teach, and am at this minute waiting on a call with a lesson time.. waiting for 2 days now, what do you think my chances are?

    Don't let me put you off. Many have had very helpful private lessons, and you may well have a great experience. If not, you're not alone

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    Where abouts are you Indrayu? If you can afford a trip to the Goulburn Valley region, I can guarantee you that I'm definitely the opposite of what you've experienced. If you're in Victoria, I can recommend some excellent teachers*, in most areas, who will give you the one-on-one focused instruction you crave. Outside of Victoria, I haven't much experience with instructors but if we're lucky I may happen to know one close enough to you to be worth pursuing.

    *follow the bouncing butt instruction annoys me, so I won't send you to an instructor who does that for privates if I can possibly avoid it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indrayu View Post
    Then there was the one who took me through what could have been a class lesson focusing on one aspect. After about 45 minutes I asked for feedback and she replied "I haven't really seen you dance yet."

    Ouch.. Next time you have a private you have to ask for feedback in the beginning of the lesson, if you don't get it automatically - maybe even if you ask before the lesson.
    IMHO getting feedback to improve in a particular subject of dance is all a private lesson should be about.

    The more specific you are ("I want to work on this choreography from class X" or "I've got trouble with 3/4 shimmies" , "I've lost to many classes and need a private lesson to catch up" etc), the easier it will be for the teacher to give you what you want.

    If the teacher know you and your dancing, it is easier to be more vague ("could you teach me some cool combos?" or "from what you've seen me do, what do I need to work with to become a better dancer?").



    Quote Originally Posted by indrayu View Post
    I persist in believing that there are teachers out there who actually teach, and am at this minute waiting on a call with a lesson time.. waiting for 2 days now, what do you think my chances are?
    Take a private lesson on skype with Darshiva instead (unless you can do it live, of course).
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    Thanks, Darshiva. I live at the other end of the country, but usually make a Christmas visit to family in South Aus. Other than that, it's expensive and time-consuming visiting "south", not to mention *winter* (OK, our Northern hemisphere friends are going "You call that winter??")

    Take a private lesson on skype with Darshiva instead (unless you can do it live, of course).
    Sounds like the way to go-but that would reveal the appaling state I've let my home get into, while I"ve been busy doing more interesting things

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    Re the house: you & me both!

    I actually don't personally know any teachers in SA but I know people who do. If you like I can ask around the people I know to recommend a teacher that gives more interactive private lessons & does feedback & stuff. (I'll specify 'no following the bouncing butt, please') - this offer being for an Xmas gift to yourself, of course!
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