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    Idea Do We Need a Section for "Middle Eastern Dance History and Culture"?

    I'm preparing to let everyone know about a new article on Shira.net that talks about Badia Masabni. As I was trying to decide which section to post it in, none of them seemed to fit. I'll probably post it in "styles" since that seems to fit best.

    But it made me think it's interesting that we have sections for a lot of topics that are kind of peripheral to belly dance - costuming, buying & selling, teachers/students, male dancers - but not anything specifically tied to the very foundation of our dance, Middle Eastern dance history and culture.

    Whatever you decide (whether to create a history/culture section or not) is ok, just thought I'd suggest it in case there are others who like the idea.

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    I think it's a good idea. Salome has been thinking of doing some updates to the forum structure so this could be a nice change.

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    Ditto to what Gisela said, I do like the idea of a Dance History/Art/Culture section.
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    Oooh! I like this idea.

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    I for one welcome the idea of a history section and that because fact has the lovely habit of squishing fanciful interpretations under the banner of if it has existed before, there is no reason why it should not exist today i.e. History educates the future.

    Has any belly dance website done it, has any web location managed to pot the academic history of belly dance, if not, why not this website be the first to attempt to turn myth and fantasy into fact.

    Sure there are a few academic works regarding the history of belly dance but they don't come to the wider audience due to their academic nature, that is where a website such as this can flourish by drawing attention to academic works and even using such to pot a true history of belly dance so belly dancers and those interested can understand without wading through often very dry academic prose, where one unless they are very determined or have a vested interest tend to lose interest and quickly from my experience.

    What I see from what I have read of academic study into the origins of belly dance, is there are numerous fragments of information, these fragments being in depth studies and studies into non related subjects, but I have found in such studies facts that coincide with belly dance, as it is me to at leisure study the various empires that existed in the region, but all they are are fragments, what is needed is for those fragments to be brought together to sit side by side in one place so a more complete picture can be formed.

    For example of my study, I noticed through art in this case the Cafe dancer the swords being used were of Ottoman design thus giving some credence to an artist who was otherwise thought to be fanciful and where credit is awarded through the details many don't often notice there comes the notion that other works might not be as fantastic as was once thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanjar View Post
    Has any belly dance website done it, has any web location managed to pot the academic history of belly dance, if not, why not this website be the first to attempt to turn myth and fantasy into fact.

    Sure there are a few academic works regarding the history of belly dance but they don't come to the wider audience due to their academic nature, that is where a website such as this can flourish by drawing attention to academic works and even using such to pot a true history of belly dance so belly dancers and those interested can understand without wading through often very dry academic prose, where one unless they are very determined or have a vested interest tend to lose interest and quickly from my experience.
    Khanjar, have you ever seen the section of my web site with belly dance history? Index to the "About Belly Dance" Section of Shira.net

    Quote Originally Posted by khanjar View Post
    For example of my study, I noticed through art in this case the Cafe dancer the swords being used were of Ottoman design thus giving some credence to an artist who was otherwise thought to be fanciful and where credit is awarded through the details many don't often notice there comes the notion that other works might not be as fantastic as was once thought.
    Are you referring to the Sabre Dance in a Cafe painting by Jean-Leon Gerome? There's an article about Orientalist painters, including Gerome (who DID spend some time in Egypt) on my web site - it was written by a dancer who is working on a PhD in art history: Imagining Movement: Orientalist Paintings and Photographs of Middle Eastern Dancers

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    I rather like the idea too. If the forum is created is there any chance of getting existing threads that would fit moved there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    I rather like the idea too. If the forum is created is there any chance of getting existing threads that would fit moved there?
    Yes we can move threads. It would take some work but it's def. doable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    I rather like the idea too. If the forum is created is there any chance of getting existing threads that would fit moved there?
    I think the biggest challenge is that it would be time-consuming to go back, look at old threads, and decide which ones to move. If someone was willing to go choose a bunch of threads and provide a list of links to the moderators, it might make things a lot easier for them.

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    By the way, I posted my article in the Instructors and Students forum, and there has been only one view so far:

    http://bellydanceforums.net/instruct...her-clubs.html

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