I needed to do this

[Zorba]

Not to dismiss ethics, but in my life experience I don't believe ethics are enough.

At this point, we may very well be getting into a semantic difference with the word "Ethics".

 

[Shanazel]

Erik? What happened to kiddo?
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You are always "kiddo" in my heart, but periodically I like to use given names so I don't forget them. It's part of my never-ending fight against dementia and the demons of memory loss.