Hi everybody, Hi Mahsati! (Wow! After three years I've finally managed to get into this site!)
I think the confusion is coming from the use of the word "combinations."
I dance both Egyptian style and ATS and there is a slight difference in usage.
When I dance Egyptian and I do a combination, it is a grouping I've put together and rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed because I think they would maximize the performance.
In FCBD ATS, combinations are still done to maximize a moment in performance, but they are usually combinations because some of the movements in the combination can't be cued, whether due to sight lines or the speed at which things are happening.
But not all ATS is combinations. No.
As someone mentioned, we do have combinations that would be cued, but most ATS involves cueing one particular move. Some of those moves have four counts to accomplish them, some of them have eight counts to accomplish them.
Mahsati asked if you could do one hip circle, one hip bump, one hip accent forward with arms alternating from forehead to horizontal and that not be a combination.
Yes.
In ATS one hip circle (in ATS: Circle step... a slow move), one hip bump (Single bump), one hip accent forward with arms alternating from forehead to horizontal (in ATS we bring the arms over head and call it an Egyptian) and that would not be a pre-planned combination. Each movement would be cued separately. It is just a matter of the skill of the dancer to be able to cue it fast enough that the others can catch it.
The difference from dancers just following you without any cue is that in ATS they usually know ALL the movements in the vocabulary, so if you cue something that is not one of the base moves, the following dancer has that split second to remember that you're going to do a more complicated move that a non-ATS dancer might not necessarily catch if you don't know what the cue means.
In ATS we are aiming for the movement to look smooth (as buttah!) and synched as we do them. We are trying to avoid Betty being a count off of Jane.
Mahsati, it could have been that because you were in a workshop situation that they only did combinations to keep it fun for people. But in regular one-on-on (Or one-on-three... or four...) dancing, we aren't usually doing combinations of 16.
With my students, they'll do a count of four, cue, CHANGE, a count of eight, cue, CHANGE, a count of sixteen (because the move has that count), cue, CHANGE, etc...
Hope this helps. I'm not even sure if I answered the question.
I think the confusion is coming from the use of the word "combinations."
I dance both Egyptian style and ATS and there is a slight difference in usage.
When I dance Egyptian and I do a combination, it is a grouping I've put together and rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed because I think they would maximize the performance.
In FCBD ATS, combinations are still done to maximize a moment in performance, but they are usually combinations because some of the movements in the combination can't be cued, whether due to sight lines or the speed at which things are happening.
But not all ATS is combinations. No.
As someone mentioned, we do have combinations that would be cued, but most ATS involves cueing one particular move. Some of those moves have four counts to accomplish them, some of them have eight counts to accomplish them.
Mahsati asked if you could do one hip circle, one hip bump, one hip accent forward with arms alternating from forehead to horizontal and that not be a combination.
Yes.
In ATS one hip circle (in ATS: Circle step... a slow move), one hip bump (Single bump), one hip accent forward with arms alternating from forehead to horizontal (in ATS we bring the arms over head and call it an Egyptian) and that would not be a pre-planned combination. Each movement would be cued separately. It is just a matter of the skill of the dancer to be able to cue it fast enough that the others can catch it.
The difference from dancers just following you without any cue is that in ATS they usually know ALL the movements in the vocabulary, so if you cue something that is not one of the base moves, the following dancer has that split second to remember that you're going to do a more complicated move that a non-ATS dancer might not necessarily catch if you don't know what the cue means.
In ATS we are aiming for the movement to look smooth (as buttah!) and synched as we do them. We are trying to avoid Betty being a count off of Jane.
Mahsati, it could have been that because you were in a workshop situation that they only did combinations to keep it fun for people. But in regular one-on-on (Or one-on-three... or four...) dancing, we aren't usually doing combinations of 16.
With my students, they'll do a count of four, cue, CHANGE, a count of eight, cue, CHANGE, a count of sixteen (because the move has that count), cue, CHANGE, etc...
Hope this helps. I'm not even sure if I answered the question.