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    Default Mariella Monroe bellydancing course

    I have been taking a class for 3 years, but a family emergency has caused our teacher to move away. The rest of us are trying to keep things together and keep dancing. I am looking for some videos and ideas to help us keep learning new things.

    Anyway, this belly dancing course popped up on my facebook page. Normally websites like this one scare me off immediately as a scam. But it sounds good... So anyway, I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone has bought this, and what your opinion is.

    Thanks!
    JoAnne

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    Welcome to the forum. I haven't heard of the course you mentioned, so can't help you there. As for DVDs, have you checked out our "sticky" thread on instructional DVDs http://bellydanceforums.net/instruct...onal-dvds.html.
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    Sorry - I should have referenced the website!
    &#9829 BellyDancingCourse? - The #1 Home Belly Dancing Class With 50 Video Lessons That Guarantees Results! &#9829

    I have started looking through the sticky, but I'll need to put some time into it...

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    It looks OK, & for $47 not bad value, especially if everyone chipped in a few dollars. It is difficult to say just watching the 2 clips if at 3 years of dancing you'd feel this is advanced enough. In the end it would depend on if you are happy to spend the dollars in the hope other lessons would be OK for you. You could contact the teacher/s & ask for a breakdown each DVDs content.
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    Personally, I'm discouraged by the thought of nothing being left to the imagination. For me personally, a big part of the joy of bellydance is the creativity involved.

    I've also never heard of her, which is a little surprising considering how long she has been dancing and where she has danced. I'd probably be cautious with how I spent my money but it wouldn't hurt to take a look. She could be quite good. But the only way to find out is to try it out.

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    I'm a bit skeptical because of the over the top marketing, but hey it's cheap. If someone on the forum buys this, I'd love a real review.

    Why I'm skeptical: I've never heard of her except in connection to her new product. All the hits I'm getting online are ads for this course and "reviews" which are thinly veiled ads for the course. There were some accusations floating around that she was using other dancers videos/pictures without permission. I have no idea if that is true or not. Anyone have any inside info on those accusations or videos of her dancing and not instructing? I can't find any videos of her dancing online that aren't, again, connected directly to this product. I like to see instructors dance before I buy an instructional video or take lessons from them. The master class claims are beyond realistic. "I became a belly dance expert in five major styles with no teacher using only eight hours of video!"* said no one ever... I'm very willing to change my mind and buy it if a trusted forum member, or a dancer I know and respect, gives it a solid review.

    *Quote is me paraphrasing claims from the website.

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    Default that's what i was thinking..

    Jane - you've summed up my feelings, that this type of website screams "scam." I also found some of the "reviews" that just lead back to the website. That's why I wanted to ask here, to see if anyone else had heard of it...

    I certainly don't expect to learn 5 styles in 8 hours!! I'm just hoping for some good basics, that would fit my unfortunately small budget.

    But the fact that no one here has heard of this world class dancer, and now that Jane says there are some indications that she has borrowed other peoples work - eh. If I had a larger budget, I might get it just to write up a review here. But since my funds are limited, I think I'll go with something tried and true.

    Thanks!

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    Good luck on your dance journey! I hope you find some videos that work for you. There are a lot of good ones out there for every style and level.

    Quick aside- I have no facts or proof that this woman who made the videos used other dancer's media without permission. I heard a rumor a couple places online, that's all. If someone wants to discuss these rumors, I'd be interested in hearing what actually happened. If the video creator is being slandered that is definitely worth clearing up!

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    I read some of the discussions on facebook about this dvd a few weeks ago. To me it DOES look like a complete scam, although I have no proof.

    Here are some facts though:
    Some dancers wrote in the threads that they had had their picture used without approval.
    There are NO google results for Mariella Monroe except ones that lead to the dvd.
    All youtube videos about the course, on a huge number of different accounts, were all posted at about the same time.
    Mariella Monroes "popular dance studio" was and is completely unknown to other proffessional bellydancers in the same city.
    There is no mention of where this dance studio is located and what it is called, which seems to me to be a missed advertising opportunity, were it a real studio.
    The sample videos from the dvd can all be found on other channels on youtube for free, posted by the teacher in the sample and expertvillage (I think)
    Several images on the site are stock photos.
    There are at least three facebook pages fo this dvd course. One which has allowed comments. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Belly...43819565724534
    Even though there have been loads of people commenting about it being a scam, noone has replied to debunk the accusations. I find that weird.

    my thoughts:
    The request to hurry! get your copy now, offer won't last long hurry hurry, is often used by scammers so that people wont have time to think it through properly.
    ETA: How is it possible for a teacher and dvd maker to have such an incredibly strong web marketing campaign for this dvd, and absolutely NO web presence whatsoever for her dance business and studio?

    I don't believe she is a real person, I think she is made up completely, along with the people recommending the dvd on the site.

    I think you should go to a trusted source of dvds instead, such as cheekygirls productions or world dance new york.
    ETA: No matter if it is real or not, this dvd uses images of dancers that hasn't given permission and based on that, we should turn to ethical businesses instead.
    Last edited by gisela; 04-27-2013 at 12:45 PM.

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    I've also seen a lot of discussion of this in various bd Facebook groups, and the consensus definitely seems to be that it's at best dodgy and unethical and at worst a complete scam. Their marketing techniques are also extremely spammy. In the last couple of days spam posts about it have started appearing on bhuz, and when I saw the title of this thread, I initially assumed this would also be spam.

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