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Shanazel
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Well, here's my judgmental two cents worth which is based on thirty-five years+ of belly dance experience and education: diamante handcuffs (and indeed just the plain old steel ones my father carried in his belt every day of his working life) have no place as a prop in middle eastern dance. At best it is non-traditional. At worst it is tacky-tacky (the most dreaded term in the Southern Girl's repertoire of assessment for those of you who are unfamiliar with the American South). :naghty:
Roshanna
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I thought that the non-apology was extremely unprofessional, it's done as much to put me off shopping with her as the handcuffs themselves.
Afrit
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I too found it unprofessional that she mixes her sexuality with her business. I have no problem with people who are MSW in their personal lives but I do when the lifestyle then impacts on areas which are unrelated - such as belly dance.
And despite the fact that many Egyptian dancers need/have needed to support themselves with prostitution that is not the case in the West where the dance is either a hobby or additional income (those that can make a living with it obviously do not need to supplement their income)
Makes me think the problem is her orientation - she lives MSW and thinks that's the way life is.
And despite the fact that many Egyptian dancers need/have needed to support themselves with prostitution that is not the case in the West where the dance is either a hobby or additional income (those that can make a living with it obviously do not need to supplement their income)
Makes me think the problem is her orientation - she lives MSW and thinks that's the way life is.
Jeanne
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I agree. Very off-putting.
Darshiva
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I wasn't going to say anything about that, but it's the last in a long list of unprofessional behaviour that's made me not want anything to do with her business. I guess this is the impetus I need to put together a line of dance-related clothing that I can wear to teach & sell, small-scalle, as well.
Aniseteph
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Can someone tell me where the non.apology is please? If I see any more anti.vaccination blah I am going to hurl. Which would adversely affect my day which coincidentally is going to be spent making my own yoga/dance pants pattern, and maybe a tie top to go with.
Won't be crafting my own cuffs though, :lol:
ETA: oh there we go, clicked through from the shop instead of searching fb and there's the drama. Yummy yummy internet drama and a fresh cup of coffee, fab.
ETA 2: oh good grief, now I want to hurl all over again (and it's not the coffee). Some belly dancers have been prostitutes too especially in Egypt (nice playing of the authenticity card there), so it's all cool? I get that sometimes one might be doing a fusion number that requires specialist props - my teacher has done a cane number with a different kind of cane altogether, very tongue in cheek and hilarious. So put on your big girl panties and source those from a genuine stockist of said item, or be cheap and get a novelty version off eBay or from a party shop. 'Cos it's not belly dance, even if you put "belly-" in front of it.
Won't be crafting my own cuffs though,
:lol:ETA: oh there we go, clicked through from the shop instead of searching fb and there's the drama. Yummy yummy internet drama and a fresh cup of coffee, fab.
ETA 2: oh good grief, now I want to hurl all over again (and it's not the coffee). Some belly dancers have been prostitutes too especially in Egypt (nice playing of the authenticity card there), so it's all cool?
I get that sometimes one might be doing a fusion number that requires specialist props - my teacher has done a cane number with a different kind of cane altogether, very tongue in cheek and hilarious. So put on your big girl panties and source those from a genuine stockist of said item, or be cheap and get a novelty version off eBay or from a party shop. 'Cos it's not belly dance, even if you put "belly-" in front of it.
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Shanazel
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Goodness, my morbid curiosity has been raised to the point where I am almost tempted to sign up for Facebook just to read the drama. Perhaps someone can summarize it for me? Is the person in question championing prostitution as a legitimate sideline for belly dancers or what? Inquiring minds want to know.
Farasha Hanem
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W-what's a masochist?
*comes back in* I just saw her post on Facebook. Apparently she doesn't have time for we "judgemental" people---she's too busy tending her sick child sufferng from vaccination poisoning. Real nice touch dragging her kid into her drama to play the sympathy card. Totally unprofessional. I certainly won't shop her store. -_-
She sounds like the kind of person who has her mind made up about what bellydance "is," and wouldn't listen to facts and good common sense if you hit her on the head with it. I won't support her any more if this is her attitude.
*comes back in* I just saw her post on Facebook. Apparently she doesn't have time for we "judgemental" people---she's too busy tending her sick child sufferng from vaccination poisoning. Real nice touch dragging her kid into her drama to play the sympathy card. Totally unprofessional. I certainly won't shop her store. -_-
She sounds like the kind of person who has her mind made up about what bellydance "is," and wouldn't listen to facts and good common sense if you hit her on the head with it. I won't support her any more if this is her attitude.
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