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    That's a big mean Shan. It's kinda like mocking someone for hating on books because they can't read. Pity definitely wins out here.
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    I actually sympathise with Stephen Fry. I never understood the appeal of dancing. It was just a bunch of people moving in stupid ways to music. On the very rare occasions that I was persuaded to join in, I felt extremely self conscious and awkward - which only increased as others tried to encourage me further. The sense of bewilderment and isolation I felt watching it and not getting it, was only enhanced by trying it and still not getting it. It aggravated, and made me painfully aware of a pre-existing poor self image that I desperately wanted to hide from.

    From what I've read of him, I would guess that Stephen Fry's attitude to dance is just a way of protecting himself. Shanazel is only giving back what Mr.Fry is so liberal with himself. I don't pity him or feel sorry for him. I just think he needs to deal with it. And if he doesn't want to deal with it, then shut up about it.
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    High five, dude.



    Strange to be so unhinged about an activity.
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    Meh, I find pity more productive than hate. :P


    And with that we should wait for a response team to get this thread back on the rails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by walladah View Post
    Dance has been considered a grave sin by church, particularly the dance done by women. Remember that witchhunt has a justification that women-witches gather and dance in the nights under moonlight.
    Not only in the west, other religions have tried to stamp out dance too. No idea why they see it as 'sinful' though, maybe because it's fun?

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    Dancing is the vilest vice of all, and truly it cannot easily be said what mischiefs the sight and the hearing do receive hereby . . . [It is] an exercise not descended from heaven, but by the devils of hell devised.
    John Northbrooke - A Treatise Against Dicing, Dancing, Plays and Other Idle Pastimes (1577).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duvet View Post
    He who dances must be drunk or mad.
    Cicero
    This is actually a paraphrase. The proper translation is;

    For no man, one may almost say, ever dances when sober, unless perhaps he be a madman
    Cicero - In Defense of Lucius Murena (63 BC)

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    Cicero must've spent an evening at the Beacon Club in Casper or the Cowboy Bar in Laramie.
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    Dancing is, in itself, a very trifling and silly thing; but it is one of those established follies to which people of sense are sometimes obliged to conform.
    Lord Chesterfield, in a letter to his son (Nov 19th 1745)

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    "theologians" - say no more.

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