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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Diana~ View Post
    I don't know enough about silk to trim them. It is possible to trim them down based on the coloration; They are black with only light blue dye along the bottom edges. But I don't know how to do that with silk without ruining it. I do have two rectangular silk veils I could probably learn to dance with. I was hoping to learn it with semi-circle cause I love the look of it and that is what all of the dvd's I bought the instructor used.
    If there is a costumer in your area, or a skilled alterations tailor, it might be worth having them trim them for you. I would definitely stick with semicircles -- IMHO you just don't get the right look for double veil with rectangles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farasha Hanem View Post
    i love double-veil, and have a number of half-circle chiffon veils, and a set of silk ones that I've yet to master.
    Ok, so YOU have experience with DV with Chiffon - this is great! What's their weight? I called one of my teachers last nite - old skool dancer - and she too confirmed that Chiffon DV is possible - she did it back in the day, but wasn't able to offer any insight on Chiffon vis-a-vis Lame' (for DV).

    As for transitioning to silk for D.V., to echo Daimona, slow down and reduce your power - this seems to be a common problem for those used to Lame' (it was for *ME*!), your Chiffon sounds like it might be a fairly heavy variety which, if that's the case, would also necessitate a power reduction. I hope that makes sense...

    As for the OP, if those $18 Chiffon veils are half circles, I can't see how you could go wrong, even if you ended up using them for "later".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanne View Post
    I would definitely stick with semicircles -- IMHO you just don't get the right look for double veil with rectangles.
    Yes, its an ENTIRELY different look using rectangles!

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    I might risk buying the smaller size half circle in chiffon for the cost of $18 each. I looked up some pictures of organza and just love how metallic they look. Might see if I can find a small but cheap pair to order in to try out.

    In the meantime I got some sword dance and moves dvd's I can also start learning from. Some day I will master DV!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Diana~ View Post
    I might risk buying the smaller size half circle in chiffon for the cost of $18 each. I looked up some pictures of organza and just love how metallic they look. Might see if I can find a small but cheap pair to order in to try out.

    In the meantime I got some sword dance and moves dvd's I can also start learning from. Some day I will master DV!!!
    Be patient with yourself with DV, it isn't easy and most people - such as myself - spend quite a bit of time being nauseated from all the spinning!

    "Metallic"? That would be Lame', not Organza. Organza is an open weave, about halfway between Chiffon and Tulle - or am I missing something?

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    huh the website I was looking at had something that was metallic in shimmer listed as organza. I was considering getting these http://www.dahlal.com/half-circle-or...r-belly-dance/

    LOL I love spinning so that it not a problem for me. I'll look into getting smaller veils and work with those.
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    You're right! That's Organza all right, and what a pretty Organza it is! I hereby stand corrected!

    I like Organza as a veil fabric in general - I would say ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL (which they never are), you could do well with these - with the usual disclaimers, blah, blah, I haven't tried it, etc, etc. You can't complain about the price!

    On the subject, I'll recommend Alyne Hazzard's D.V. video, if you're looking for one. She's the one who taught me - plus she's QUITE petite. I'm not sure about availability as she retired a few years back, but there are other good vids out there that I'm sure folks can recommend.
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    These are the hand dyed silk veils I have. SOOO big for me. Both are identical. Love them but at 100 inches by 54 inches they do not love me.
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    3. Hotshot dancer. Too good to dance with anyone.
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    .
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    I once got a trick from Aziza holding more fabric in the hands when dancing with a larger veil, when needed letting the fingers crawl grabbing more fabric to keep it up from the floor and letting go when needed (for posing with nice hands etc). Both are typical things you can do when spinning.
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    Ooh, pretty semicircles! I've got fanveils in a similar colourway.

    But yeah huge semicircles are huge. I'm tall and can still get eaten by mine, and there's only one of it. Two would look like having a fight with a super king size duvet cover.

    Actually it is my friend now. I used it at a hafla the other weekend with a more than usually "haven't thought this through" choreography, and we came to an understanding. Choreo forgotten (no change there then...) and wheeee, I have space and a huge piece of silk to play with!!!!. Trying to practice at home in a limited space had been hopeless; however tall you are you need the space for all that silk to move. Poly chiffon feels slightly easier in a smaller space, it's more about the drape.

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