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    Hello guys, it's me here after a long time. I hope everyone is doing fine

    I just want to give you my thoughts about this, this has been a myth for a while now. I am a part of pretty large sized forums, so i am sure that Facebook is not killing them.

    Only small and mid sized forums have this problem, i call them as seasonal decline or users loosing interest because of their life style changes. Yeah, FB may be a reason for that but not exactly.

    FB can't offer what forums offer to an user, i would blame the mindset of the people for moving to fb from forum.

    Also forums will continue to evolve even in the near future, even if a site gets closed there will be a new forum in the same niche very soon.

    But at the same time, people tend to forget one simple concept. During the early days of a forum, people try so many new things to attract new users. When the activity drops, you gotta keep the same simple logic. Offer something new to the users, for a site like this i would say write articles about your passion. I mean get a CMS (content management system) home page, like and share the articles on fb, reddit be socially engaged. This will drive new visitors to your site.

    Also, you gotta keep an eye on http://www.reddit.com/r/Bellydance/ to see the latest trends and what can you offer to the community members. Actually you can drive visitors from reddit but i am not a reddit user. You gotta follow their community guidelines when posting links to other sites i guess. Yeah, that's just an example.

    Social media sites will help you drive new visitors/members if used properly.

    Sorry, if my post was inappropriate, just my 0.2 scents.

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    Your 2 cents is worth a lot, Arun, thank you, and it's nice to see you back again.

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    I liked Arun's concepts. It would be nice to read articles from other dancers (different perspectives, other countries, different genres, etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socialteenz View Post
    Also, you gotta keep an eye on http://www.reddit.com/r/Bellydance/ to see the latest trends and what can you offer to the community members. Actually you can drive visitors from reddit but i am not a reddit user. You gotta follow their community guidelines when posting links to other sites i guess. Yeah, that's just an example.
    For whatever reason, it hadn't occurred to me to go on r/Bellydance, even though reddit has everything and would certainly have Oriental dance. I must admit, it doesn't look to me like it's thriving either, I reached only the bottom of the first page and already I saw, "posted 4 months ago". And many were simply youtube video links, not interesting discussions.

    I truly love the forum format, I think it still has something that other formats can't replicate--it's sole purpose is discussion. I find that different from facebook (and even reddit sometimes) because one finds more "sharing", or at worst, attention seekers. However, the advantage that I think facebook has (at least for me) is the ability to make connections and the event-organizing convenience. I can always easily find/follow dancers I like and admire, and find/join events and workshops.

    Like I said, I adore the this forum. I'm on bhuz too, but for whatever reason mostly lurk/post here. But I haven't been of late, and I think a lot of that is just being tired. These days, I have so many websites to deal with, so many usernames and passwords, I feel inundated. 2 personal emails (personal and professional), 1 work email, facebook, linkedin, twitter, my university alumni network, this forum, another forum, Meetup, a roommate finder network (trying to move), Skype, a language exchange website, plus all those little random things you're required to make an account for...I enjoy having these resources at my fingertips, but do not enjoying sitting on the computer, so unfortunately I pick and chose at times, and may cycle through different phases of what networks I pay attention to. These days I barely go on facebook, and spend most computer time either job searching ( ) or using the language exchange website.

    But I'll always come back here, because like I said, this community and the format of the website gives me things I wouldn't get anywhere else...and at times, man, it really educates me. I find that invaluable.

    I think what might lure me here in and keep me regularly would be an app, if at all possible. Or even just making the site mobile-friendly when accessed from a smart phone. Is it mobile friendly? I do not enjoy being on the computer for more than half an hour or 45 minutes, so I find it feels nicer and easier to check on things from my smartphone. That way I can hop on and hop with ease, and I don't have to wrestle the ethernet cable away from my brother (no wi-fi for us!)

    Edited to add: Logged on from phone, my bad, it is indeed mobile friendly!
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    See, you made me unlurk / decloak or whatever. Had to like me some posts on here and add my name to the FB resisters. I'm on there in a never bother to post, my page has cobwebs on it kinda way. I think for BD people use it over forums because it's better for publicising local events, and a lot of them aren't interested in debating anything. That has to be a numbers thing that suffers when we are out of fashion.

    I've been posting less because I dance less and feel a bit remote from it at the moment. My teacher does more yoga now, and though I have good intentions about getting the DVDs out, there are other things that always get in the way, not least a knee injury. I'm still in the local BD loop, just shockingly out of practice.

    I would love it if BD got fashionable again, although it would be super annoying if it was watered-down fusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanazel View Post
    I've known belly dance to almost fall off the face of the earth at times except for a handful of dogged and dedicated dancers. There have been at least three big peaks and troughs since I started dancing in the late seventies, plus some smaller wavelets. We're sliding into the fourth trough (according to my lights) now but somewhere on the other side there will be another big wave of enthusiasm for the dance. In the meantime, keep the faith and practice your shimmies.
    Yeah, I think this is true. It's sad to see how attendance (as well as the number of vendors) has dropped at many festivals, as well as some longtime events being discontinued.

    Anyway, I'm glad this topic was brought up. I've been wondering myself what has happened to the forums -- used to be a really active (and informative) source of conversation.

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    Lately, I have to admit, other aspects of life are barging in and interrupting my dance practice. I used to dance 2 hours a day, now I feel lucky if I do 4 hours a week.

    I think this can have a lot to do with the economy in some ways...I have a hard time practicing when my current job's contract runs out soon, and I have no job on the horizon, so I don't know where I'll be, what I'll be doing, and how I'll be paying for it. The best I've been doing is a regular shimmy practice (shimmies are magical for stress/anger reduction)

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    Big festivals aren't what they were here. I'm guilty of being less supportive than I was, but the big ones stopped being a draw for me a long time ago. Mainly the workshops... I'm no longer interested in schlepping up to London for a teacher I never heard of (especially to LearnAChoreo and/or for wacky fusion fun ) or to be in a megaworkshop with a star name up the other end of the room somewhere I can't see. Plus same old vendors, same costumes, props and hipscarves that I don't need because I don't perform much. I started feeling alienated from that scene.

    OTOH small is beautiful! I do support local regular workshops and a hafla, and there's a small annual festival that is excellent and draws a regular crowd. Maybe I am just embracing what is friendlier to the hipscarf-happy hobbyist. Keeping the faith...

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    I get what you mean about big festivals. I think more of them are organized, so we start picking and choosing, hey I may go to this one (usually significant $ investment) and skip all these others. I mean just off the top of my head, there's Ahlan wa Sahlan, Nile Group, Raqs of Course, Heshk Beshk, al Ahram, Mahrajane al Sharq, Shimmy in the City, The Egyptian Weeklong Intensive in NY, others in Greece and Russia and Turkey that I forget the names of, and more.

    Many workshops are worth the effort, I would argue, but there are some certainly where I wonder why we're all here, if we're actually learning anything-it seems festivals are just trying to pull people in with famous names. Perhaps it's a combination of dancers being tired of that and conserving their time and money.

    I'm very picky about festivals depending on who the teachers are. If there's only like 25% of the teachers who I truly think are invaluable teachers, I stay home, honestly. So far from all the classes and workshops I've attended, I'd say some teachers worth going to festivals for (where I was pushed and challenged and I learned) were Khaled Mahmoud, Raqia Hassan, Karim Nagi, Nourhan Sharif, Virginia Mendez, Amir Thaleb, and Bina (who hosts Mahrajane al Sharq).

    But there are certainly some festival teachers that make me wonder why I'm there, and that's unfortunate...

    Perhaps in oriental dance right now there's too much supply and not enough demand?

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    Perhaps in oriental dance right now there's too much supply and not enough demand?
    You may have clobbered that nail square on the head.

    It also seems to me that a lot of the fun has gone out of belly dancing- too much emphasis on competition, name recognition, advertising one's "brand" via social media, striving to be shockingly different, and/or striving to emulate well-known dancers instead of learning the vocabulary, the music, and just dancing for the pleasure of moving gracefully through space.

    Though it has fallen out of favor, I still teach belly dance as a social dance wherein women dance for and with each other as well as prepare to dance for outside audiences. That's not to exclude male dancers- I've just never had any sign up. And that's not saying that belly dance stems from childbirth rituals or the harem or any other eyebrow raising fantasy- it's just the way we do it here and now, and in our tiny dance community, it works beautifully.
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