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    On a related note I was trawling youtube tonight and came across this:

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    Thanks for explaining, Dar.

    I "get it", too, Zorba, but I also see Zumarrad's point. One doesn't have to agree with a situation or wide-held perception in order to admit that it exists and must be dealt with.

    Sometimes the loudest statements are made by folks just going quietly about their own business. They don't intend to be leaders but one day they look behind them and see a long line of folks following them... clinging to their skirt tails, as it were.
    "Well, now that we have seen each other," said the unicorn " if you'll believe in me, I'll believe in you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanazel View Post
    ...to admit that it exists and must be dealt with.

    Sometimes the loudest statements are made by folks just going quietly about their own business. They don't intend to be leaders but one day they look behind them and see a long line of folks following them... clinging to their skirt tails, as it were.
    Sometimes the best way to "deal with" things is to simply ignore them. People are free to think what they like, as long as they don't get in my face, I really don't care...

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    I found another one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorba View Post
    Sometimes the best way to "deal with" things is to simply ignore them. People are free to think what they like, as long as they don't get in my face, I really don't care...
    I feel that way about politics, religion, fashion, and meatloaf with tomato sauce.
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    I swear this topic just came up at the same time at various places on the internet. So here's the thrilling conclusion to the male fashion trilogy.

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    By all means wear whatever you are comfortable with (assuming your troupe director/teacher agrees) - but don't bitch then if you get misinterpreted. My preference is for no makup, jeans and t-shirts but if I'm at a gig I wear makeup, jewellery and sparkly clothes (usually a dress) because performance is theatre; you are not just dancing but spinning a fantasy and part of that you take from the audience's own mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir View Post
    ...performance is theatre; you are not just dancing but spinning a fantasy and part of that you take from the audience's own mind.
    Very much so! Its all in the attitude!

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    Darshiva - my formative years were in the 60s & 70s. Men wearing skirts (or high heels - or fishnets) is part of my normal social experience. But I know none of those guys dress like that in their day jobs (at least those who have jobs - challenging some stereotypes can limit your employment prospects) whereas I wore pants to work 99% of the time - and for two jobs it was strongly suggested I do (pretty hard to get into overalls in a skirt and crawling under desks is never a good idea in a skirt). In current western culture women in pants is not cross dressing - men in skirts still is. It might be unfair but ignore it at your peril.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir View Post
    Darshiva - my formative years were in the 60s & 70s. Men wearing skirts (or high heels - or fishnets) is part of my normal social experience. But I know none of those guys dress like that in their day jobs (at least those who have jobs - challenging some stereotypes can limit your employment prospects) whereas I wore pants to work 99% of the time - and for two jobs it was strongly suggested I do (pretty hard to get into overalls in a skirt and crawling under desks is never a good idea in a skirt). In current western culture women in pants is not cross dressing - men in skirts still is. It might be unfair but ignore it at your peril.
    See that is why I take issue with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir View Post
    By all means wear whatever you are comfortable with (assuming your troupe director/teacher agrees) - but don't bitch then if you get misinterpreted.
    Specifically, the don't bitch about it part. The big reason why women currently wear pants, MOSTLY without issue, is because women bitched about it when they wore pants and were misinterpreted (called a lesbian, accused of trying to be men, etc).

    I seriously understand the ideal of being able to accept the consequences of one's actions, but this isn't the moment to hold someone to those ideals. This is the moment to say 'look, people are going to be arseholes about this, but I'm going to support you'. This isn't about transgender equality (although it does overlap), it is about the right for people to wear clothing that they like and feel comfortable wearing. Which is precisely the reasoning behind those awesome pioneering women of the right for women to wear pants.
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