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    Ok maybe my question will be stupid, but i don't see how it could be american dance style ?
    I am exagerating but to explain it is like if i show you someone dance and living in groenland and you told me it is kenya dancing.
    Sorry maybe because of my lack of bd style culture .
    She is french (living there since borned), and she had contact only with typical arabic teachers, so i can't see how she could have learned american cabaret style ?


    Also, zorba, when you said classic cabaret style you meant classic egyptian cabaret style ?

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    Not Egyptian - at least not "pure" Egyptian. Too much "big arm" movement for that style. On the other hand, lack of finger cymbals USED TO "scream" Egyptian - but fewer and fewer dancers of ANY style still play them. Or perhaps she plays them just fine, but just didn't happen to in these two videos.

    I say AmCab because that's what it looks like to me - especially the inclusion of Double Veil, and maybe even more-so because the Double Veil was right on the edge of being too frenetic - at least for my taste. AmCab (American Cabaret) is a combination of everything - mostly Egyptian and Turkish with a smattering of Lebanese thrown in for good measure. Veilwork - especially Double Veil - originated primarily in the US, and then fed back - to a certain degree - to Egypt and elsewhere. If she's been learning from "Arabic teachers", and those teachers are from various areas of the Middle East, that mixture could very well end up looking like AmCab by default.

    BUT - I don't claim to be an expert - far from it! Just what *I* think/see. Others that know more than I do can tell you more! Once you get past the (any kind of) Cabaret and (any kind of) Tribal dichotomy, the further differences start becoming very subtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yara View Post
    Ok maybe my question will be stupid, but i don't see how it could be american dance style ?
    I am exagerating but to explain it is like if i show you someone dance and living in groenland and you told me it is kenya dancing.
    Sorry maybe because of my lack of bd style culture .

    It isn't uncommon the style of belly dance isn't announced in classes, but it depends on the teacher.

    And it is perfectly ok to not now much about different styles or even don't know if there are different styles. Most likely we've all been there once in our dancing careers.


    Panarabic will easily become something that resembles american oriental (or american cabaret/AmCab). And various styles evolve over time (such as Golden Era Egyptian style vs modern Egyptian vs contemporary Egyptian), as well as the different dancers putting their flavor on things and being inspired by other dancers and styles.



    The reason I asked you was in case you were interested in studying other belly dance styles, since you asked for "dance seeming like belly dance."
    I know you really asked for non-bellydance dance style, but I just couldn't imagine what it could be.
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    AmCab is a style of belly dance that evolved in the United States starting in the fifties and sixties and has, as Zorba explained, some distinctive characteristics. The French dancer could do Egyptian style dance without being an Egyptian, Turkish without being a Turk, and AmCab without being an American. Purists insist AmCab is not "real" belly dance at all but it has been around almost as long as the cabaret style touted by Badia Masabni in the early 20th century which gives it a certain weight of tradition. Over the last several decades, worldwide availability of videos have given dancers a chance to see styles and methods far beyond what were available to me when I started dancing in the 1970s. A lot of those videos are American style. Incorporating things seen online with lessons learned from local teachers have blurred lines of distinction between styles which is good from the standpoint of innovation and not so good from the standpoint of traditional styles.
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