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    Default Who is still dancing, where, and what kind?

    At least a couple of us have retired from dance over the last two or three years. Who is still dancing, what style(s) are you concentrating on, where do you dance, and any other nosy question you can think of to answer?

    Once or twice a year since retiring, I've taught one-shot, hour and a half classes for the community college, occasionally attended performances by my former students, and kept up with OD, but that's the limit of my own involvement with dance at this point.
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    Two of my teachers who I left in California have since retired, and another one has joined the mass exodus from that state. As for myself, I'm still attending 2 classes per week, and doing a bit of teaching besides - I got "volun-told" that I would be teaching finger cymbals and veil while my teacher is out of town on her annual trip up north. The "big festivals" here aren't the same as they are out west, they're very pricey to attend and dance times at all venues are ridiculously short - as little as 3-1/2 minutes.

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    "Voluntold" is a great tradition in recruiting BD teachers.
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    Yea, she's convinced that just because I can play finger cymbals and have helped her a bit, that I can teach them! She thinks everybody's gonna be playing threes and baladi while doing at least basic Egyptian when she gets back after 3 weeks...

    Uh... Not so fast...

    Veil, I can teach - and have!

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    I suspect you will discover you can also teach zills.
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    Zorba, I haven't seen you dance or teach in person, but I know you'll do fine. You have insight into your limitations, you are serious about learning, and you care if you do a good job. Bad teachers aren't any of those things. Bad teachers are in it for ego. They run roughshod over cultural traditions, because those "details" aren't important to their "art." They see themselves in a zero-sum-gain competition with everyone else, including their own students. Their classes are disorganized and run like tin-pot dictatorships. Regardless of how much you might fall short of the dancer you dream of being, your teacher would not have put you in this position if she suspected you'd drive her other students away and tarnish her reputation.

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    Thanx for your kind words Tourbeau and Shanazel.

    My current teacher has an odd background - she's been dancing about the same amount of time I have (18+ years), but has little solo performance experience, and didn't know veil or Zills. What she EXCELS at is musicality and muscle breakdown - like no other! If the drummer knocked an empty coke can over in beat 7 of bar 312, she'll hear it and incorporate it into her dance! She hears everything - and she can tell me exactly what muscle I'm using to drive any given movement. Which means I can't "cheat" in her class at all, darn it! She also has eyes in the back of her head, she sees everything whether she's looking at me or not!

    I teach a 2 hour veil workshop from time-to-time: "When Good Veils go Bad, Overcoming Veil Phobia" - which is less about strict veil technique and more about what to do when things go wrong - and they WILL go wrong! She's convinced I taught her how to be the beautiful veil dancer she is - when I really didn't. She figured out all those beautiful veil moves she does with little to no input from me - its her musicality again!

    Its that musicality that is going to make an incredible Zillist out of her - we've been working together privately. Yea, I've run her through drills, and she's had the "usual problems", but due to her musicality, I'm working on her to make the quantum leap to intuitive Zill playing, because I think she can even though she's pretty new at it. She's been doing quite well - I've had her keep movements and Zilling simple enough to work for her, but to play as she dances: Intuitively. "Hips first, Zills follow." I'm not going to be able to do that with her students, we're going to have to do it "the hard way" - lots of drills and repetition just like I, and most other dancers, learned. It took me years, despite my musical background, to be able to play the intuitive way that my teacher has an obvious knack for!

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    Sounds like an amazing person.
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    Yea, she is - and she's exactly what I need in an instructor right now. Her biggest hurdle is self-confidence - she apparently was subjected to some "rough handling" at some point in her dance career, but she's overcoming that.

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    I'm still dancing but so far my schedule does not allow me to teach. I'm starting to get more professional gigs and with some nice people. I have grown over the years and I credit some of that to other forms of dance where you have to break out of the mold. Flamenco and Polynesian have been added dimensions for me.

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