Page 10 of 12 FirstFirst ... 456789101112 LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 120
  1. #91
    V.I.P. Tarik Sultan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Jersey City, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,366
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Didi View Post
    Whoa! I must be really out of touch with the mainstream. Now, I do live in the "gay district" in Atlanta and have lots of contact with homosexual people, male and female, but I never in my life heard of wearing gold, shorts, having long hair or a tattoo making you gay!!! And not getting married by a certain age?? What age, pray tell. I know lots of unmarried heterosexual males in their 30s and 40s. Where in the world is this nonsense originating from?

    I think this must be really rural thinking (?) or religious right rhetoric/paranoia. It is certainly not generally accepted anymore in the cosmopolitan culture I am surrounded by. Thank goodness.
    No, not here, in Egypt.

  2. #92
    V.I.P. Aisha Azar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Pacific Northwest USA
    Posts
    5,313
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Gay, etc.

    Dear Didi,
    AND it was not so long go that many of those same concepts about homosexuality were the norm right here in the good ol' USA. In the 1950s and 60s if you had long hair you were either effeminate or used drugs, according to the thinking of the majority. Women wore jewelry but men should not wear anything but a watch or wedding ring and that was it. Earrings on a man?? DEFINATELY a sign of homosexuality!!! If Uncle So and So was not marrried, it was thought that he must be "Queer". If he had a male room mate, then it was sure to be true!!The picture was not so different than what Tarik describes as modern Egypt. We are not so far removed from that same kind of narrow thinking.
    Regards,
    A'isha

  3. #93
    V.I.P. Tarik Sultan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Jersey City, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,366
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by A'isha Azar View Post
    Dear Group,
    There are some addendums to Tarik's statements about what can brand a person as gay.
    Many Arab men wear gold. They wear Rolexes and other gold. Among the wealthy this seems to be okay, though technically it is against Islamic law for males to wear gold or silk.

    Among the Bedouin, you still find men who wear their hair long and there is no taboo against it. I have met several Arab males with long hair who are not gay. Some guys wear their hair long in the States and get it cut just before they go home. In fact, even guys with short hair and girls seem to get their hair doen before they go home!!

    Okay, and for those of you who are easily offended, this is the place to stop
    reading!! Having discussed the subject at some length with some Saudis one weird night, I learned that in a society where men spend most of their time among men, sometimes "things happen". If a male happens to be the dominant one in a homosexual relationship, it is sometimes considered that he is keeping his male status, but that his partner is acting like a woman. The one who, in their minds, assumes the female role, can get branded as a "Funny Boy" and will be ostracized. The other partner does not seem to lose social status because he is, in effect, sdtill in male character.

    Regards,
    A'isha
    I guess I should have qualified my statements with the fact I was speaking about Urban Egyptian culture. I spend most of my time in Cairo. This just goes to show that there is not cut and dry one size fits all rule through out Arabic society.

    In general, I've noticed that the only guys I saw in Egypt wearing gold were Christians. I believe for them it is a silent protest. However, the second time I went there, my tiny gold chain and stud earing caused a lot of attention, which is why I don't wear them.

    As far as fashion, both here in the US and in Egypt, I have noticed that usually the first people who start a new trend are those who are in fact gay, or simply don't care what people think. I have a buddy in Egypt who surprised me when he showed up sporting a pony tail. I asked him about it to which he replied, "I don't give a #@$k about these stupid people"! Last summer I saw more guys with big Afros and pony tails than I did before. I remember when I was in High School, I was the first guy in my neighborhood to wear a high top fade. Everyone called me gay, or Grace Jones, two years later they were all wearing it!

    I've noticed in my current neighborhood which is very Egyptian that the Moroccan guys will wear earings and grow their hair out and corn row it, but the Egyptian guys NEVER do, even if they are into hip-hop culture.

    Thanks for opening the "OFFENSIVE TOPIC". I'd like to add that this sort of thing is common in all male environments all over the world although rarely discussed. I remember the topic comming up on a pot hazed night with an older guy who grew up in the 50's. He said that at that time, it was rare to have sex before marriage, so guys who were close friends would "do things". He didn't gonsider it homosexuality in the true sense, but releaving tension and that all the guys went ahead and had conventional heterosexual lives.

    I have been told similar things about the active and passive role as you have. Amazing what you find out in a pot haze, (Too bad I stopped, maybe I could've helped the CIA find Ossama! ) It seems that for many people the person is considered gay only if they are the passive partner.
    I've also read that this sort of attitude also exists in English boarding schools and was particularly common place in the 19th century. Seems like what's at the bottom of all this homophobia is the fear that people will find out that they may be guilty of having partaken of the forbiden fruit or are really curious about the flavor

  4. #94
    V.I.P. Tarik Sultan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Jersey City, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,366
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Looks like guys are being labeled "gay" when they dare to do stuff most straight guys don't dare.

    By the way not only guys experience nonsense like this. In high school, I never didn't have a boyfriend yet at a certain age and I didn't seem tp be interested in guys from school (well, I just tried hard not to show it) so some people concluded I must have been lesbian
    As a gay aquaintance of mine was fond of saying "MEN SUCK!...but only if you're lucky..

  5. #95
    V.I.P. Tarik Sultan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Jersey City, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,366
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by A'isha Azar View Post
    Dear Didi,
    AND it was not so long go that many of those same concepts about homosexuality were the norm right here in the good ol' USA. In the 1950s and 60s if you had long hair you were either effeminate or used drugs, according to the thinking of the majority. Women wore jewelry but men should not wear anything but a watch or wedding ring and that was it. Earrings on a man?? DEFINATELY a sign of homosexuality!!! If Uncle So and So was not marrried, it was thought that he must be "Queer". If he had a male room mate, then it was sure to be true!!The picture was not so different than what Tarik describes as modern Egypt. We are not so far removed from that same kind of narrow thinking.
    Regards,
    A'isha
    Remember when men were forbidden to wear pink and women who wore pants caused scandals? ....Hey, are we showing our age again? You should have heard the fight Morocco and I had when she insisted on us getting matching black and salmon costumes in Turkey. Salmon my ass THAT'S PINK!

  6. #96
    V.I.P. Aisha Azar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Pacific Northwest USA
    Posts
    5,313
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Gay. etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarik Sultan View Post
    Remember when men were forbidden to wear pink and women who wore pants caused scandals? ....Hey, are we showing our age again? You should have heard the fight Morocco and I had when she insisted on us getting matching black and salmon costumes in Turkey. Salmon my ass THAT'S PINK!

    Dear Tarik,
    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Who won?? (My husband still refuses to wear anything even vaguely pink-like!! Of course, the other carpenters might laugh at him, though these guys all go around the job site referring to each other as "Punkin".)
    Hugs,
    A'isha

  7. #97
    V.I.P. Tarik Sultan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Jersey City, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,366
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by A'isha Azar View Post
    Dear Tarik,
    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Who won?? (My husband still refuses to wear anything even vaguely pink-like!! Of course, the other carpenters might laugh at him, though these guys all go around the job site referring to each other as "Punkin".)
    Hugs,
    A'isha
    I now have a very nice black and salmon costume
    It's actually one of my favorates....don't tell anyone...

    What really pisses me off though is that Rocky to this day has never worn her's!

  8. #98
    Member Recnadocir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    La La Land
    Posts
    463
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Some people assume I'm gay because I have a navel piercing. Then I tell them, to paraphrase Madonna, that I'm a "lesbian trapped in a man's body." That usually confuses people, derails their train of thought, at which point I make good my escape. Nyah- ah -ah! And, a la Curly Joe, woop-woop-woop-woop!

  9. #99
    V.I.P. Aisha Azar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Pacific Northwest USA
    Posts
    5,313
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Gay, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Recnadocir View Post
    Some people assume I'm gay because I have a navel piercing. Then I tell them, to paraphrase Madonna, that I'm a "lesbian trapped in a man's body." That usually confuses people, derails their train of thought, at which point I make good my escape. Nyah- ah -ah! And, a la Curly Joe, woop-woop-woop-woop!

    Dear G., Son of T.
    Well, in any case, it ain't nobody's bidness lest they is plannin' on rockin' yo world!!!
    Love,
    A'isha

  10. #100
    Member Makeda Maysa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    444
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarik Sultan View Post
    I now have a very nice black and salmon costume
    It's actually one of my favorates....don't tell anyone...
    Is that the one you recently rocked at the BOCAFest? If so, it's gorgeous!

Page 10 of 12 FirstFirst ... 456789101112 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •