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    Hi all,

    I have the worst trouble with shimmies. I can do them standing still just fine, but my former dance partner did these magical 3/4 shimmies and walked with them. I have never quite gotten that for some reason. Undulations, slow stuff, everything else, backbends and floor work...but the shimmies undo me. Any advice?

    -Brea

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    Hi Brea,

    I am definately not even close to knowing what I am doing, however, Cassiopeia has a great web site with utube videos to practice too.

    How to Belly Dance On Line Videos.

    Good luck to you and someday I hope to do these also.

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    Hi,

    Thanks for this! I've learned many of these things, and years ago, but it's like my body is a stubborn little rebel.

    -Brea

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    Hi Brea, There are so many kinds of shimmies from your description it seems you're having trouble with travelling shimmies. One shimy you can try is choo-choo shimmy in which you come up to releve and scoot on the balls of you feet. The knees and hips are relaxed so you can allow the vibration to stay in your lower body. Being relaed is the key to all shimmy moves. As for the 3/4 shimmy, it is 3 hip movements within a 4/4 time. The 3 hip moves is divided between each hip and not 3 moves for ONE hip.Try this:
    1)With basic posture, keep your knees relaxed.
    2)Push right hip out to the side(or push it down for Egyptian version). Your weight should transfer to the right foot.That's move #1
    3) Lift the left hip up. That's move #2.
    4)Transfer your weight back to the let foot AS you push the left hip out(or downward).Weight should now be on the left foot. That is move #3 Now step forward with the right foot.This is th 4th count of the 3/4 shimmy.
    5) Repeat the same move again on the right side.
    Try it very slowly to feel the syncopated rhythm of your hips, in fact this move can be done slowly to accent some of the slower moves you like to do as well. I hope that helps.
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    Hi Yasmine,

    Yes, there are other shimmies I can do. The choo choo shimmy, the 'washing machine' shimmy as it is called on that site, the Egyptian shimmy, and the bouncing shimmy. I just get in trouble, I think with the 3/4 one. It's like going back to the beginning days of learning belly dance: 'Stupid body why don't you just DO this?'

    Thanks for the help!

    -Brea

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    I'm not sure how helpful this advice is for your particular problem, but the way I got used to traveling with shimmies was to shimmy on the spot and practicing raising myself on my toes and back down again, and transferring my weight from one side to the other, lifting one foot off the ground and continuing to shimmy - these exercises have made shimmying while traveling a bunch easier for me. Not too sure if they'll help with the 3/4 in particular, though!!

    Good luck!

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    3/4 is easiest to learn with a live instructor in my experience, but i think there's a pretty decent explanation of it on the Heartbeat DVD if you know someone who has it. I'm trying to learn the hagallah (is that how it's spelt?) currently.

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    Hi Brea,
    IMO the vital part of 3/4 shimmies is learning the rhythm/beat of it. Since you seem to be an experienced dancer (way more than me) I can't imagine you have any problems with the actual technique or moving your hips, so it might be a rhythm problem.
    I think I was helped a lot by having played the violin for many years as we did this rhythm sometimes. I can't remember it's name in english- its something with tri.....
    (Edit: Oh it's "triplet")

    Like Yasmin says:"it is 3 hip movements within a 4/4 time"

    This is from Wikipedia:

    "The most common tuplet is the triplet (G. triole),

    Tuplet: a standard triplet; a triplet denoted without a bracket; a tuplet denoted as a ratio
    Whereas normally two quarter notes are the same duration as a half note, three triplet quarter notes total that same duration, so the duration of a triplet quarter note is 2/3 the duration of a standard quarter note. Similarly, three triplet eighth notes are equal in duration to one quarter note. If several note values appear under the triplet bracket, they are all affected the same way, reduced to 2/3 their original duration."

    I don't understand much of this text but it's probably my english. It might be of help to someone.
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    Hi all,

    Thanks for the advice!! It seems to be one of those walk/chew bubblegum problems for me...like my body does not want to go to the side twice at a time and then walk like that? It's very strange, but I am working on it.

    -Brea

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    Whats a hagallah?

    I think the best way to learn them is just to do the movement described by Yasmina very slowly to begin with and gradually build it up but without moving, then try and move. It is a hard one to get I think n all.

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