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    Quote Originally Posted by Tammy View Post
    Who's Nashwa?
    Our local hero:

    ..:ance Like an Egyptian::...

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsied View Post
    I have "Visual Melodies" and have mixed feelings about it.
    When you saw the performances, did they strike you as not being the "Egyptian" style that you were used to seeing from Dina and Randa? I got a VERY different vibe off Serena's dancing than I have Dina and Randa. I'm wondering if that's because these are obvious choreographies, and she's dancing them as an INSTRUCTOR would, or if it was something else...

    Anything like that strike you as well?


    I think this dvd may have been better received if it contained a spoken introduction or some commentary on the approach to musical interpretation.
    Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. I actually asked Hossam about this, and he said he was listening to dancers and that our suggestions were encouraged. As a result, the Bedouin Tribal dvd does contain actual instruction as well as voice-over notes on the movements and why the moves fit the music. I guess if they do a Visual Melodies 2, we can expect more of a commentary.

    I was actually thinking of studying the breakdowns for each song and trying to adapt the musical guidelines to myself just as an exercise to hopefully develop better musical interpretation.
    This is what I'm doing now, to a song that's pretty close in sound to the first song they use.

    From reading others reviews of this dvd, it seems to have inspired a lot of mixed responses. My guess is people are not really sure how to use the dvd as 3 performances is short for a performance dvd and there isn't any obvious teaching in it to make an instructional dvd.
    yeah -- I can't help but think HOW helpful this would have been to have had a "director's commentary" running along her dancing, explaining WHY certain things were chosen for that part of the music. It takes a concerted effort by the viewer to really make this an "instructional" dvd.

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    I recently bought "Visual melodies" and I agree with what you have said, Samsied and Aziyade. This dvd was entertaining and I enjoyed Serena Ramzys performances, but I bought the dvd because I wanted to learn more about "Visual melodies" -theory so I was disappointed. Since there was no commentary , I think it would have been appropriate at least add a printed version of Hossam Ramzy's article about his Visual melodies theory. And I think it would take an advanced dancer to learn the choreos since the movements are not broken down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post


    Wow, that's a loooooooong biography!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziyade View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions!

    ON Keti being not Egyptian enough -- I mean, I adore her, but we have people here who don't think many of the people I adore are REAL Egyptian style, so I tend to preface my opinions as such.

    FWIW, I'm thinking about doing her fitness training program. I think it might be an interesting thing to approach my gym with. They keep bugging me to teach some kind of bellyrobics, and I think this would be better, or at least easier to do in a group fitness class.

    BTW -- I forgot you were a Hoosier too! That makes 3 active Hoosier posters, and a couple of lurkers. Taking over the boards, one cornfield at a time! LOL
    muahhhhhhhhhhh it's all part of our dastardly plan to shimmy our way through each and every Hoosier cornfield - leaving new BD converts as we go!!!!!!!

    Shimmy-on my Hoosier sistas!




    (ok so I don't shimmy very well but I'm practicing every day!)

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    Hi sstacy123,
    Just wanted to inform you that "Shareen El Safy DVDs" are not in back order, they are all available. Shareen wanted me to let you know. Thanks!
    Tammy


    Quote Originally Posted by sstacy123 View Post
    just now getting the interest to pursue the Egyptian style DVDs...(you inspired to get Shareen but it is backordered ) So I can't answer yet.
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    Thanks !

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    Hi Hoosiers,
    Nice to meet you all! Maybe I'll meet a few of you while I'm here the next couple years, then it's off to the hubby's next duty station (hopefully somewhere warmer~hehehe). Right now I'm enjoying meeting all the nice Terre Haute belly dancers (theres a few of them).
    Tammy

    Quote Originally Posted by Q-Tip View Post
    muahhhhhhhhhhh it's all part of our dastardly plan to shimmy our way through each and every Hoosier cornfield - leaving new BD converts as we go!!!!!!!

    Shimmy-on my Hoosier sistas!




    (ok so I don't shimmy very well but I'm practicing every day!)
    Last edited by Tammy; 12-07-2007 at 12:55 PM.

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    I'm told Keti isn't REALLY Egyptian. I like her advanced A-Z dvd, but alas have never seen her really perform. Would you argue she's a valid Egyptian style dancer?
    I had Keti's A-Z and advanced A-Z and I didn't really like them, but that being said, other people might very well get alot out of them. First, I had alot of trouble getting them to play in either of my two DVD players. They would play a while and then start skipping and freeze up. I actually went out and bought another DVD player just to try to get these DVDs to play (they were quite expensive). The second player worked better but still had problems.

    Second, I thought her names for the combos (each started with a different letter of the alphabet) was confusing and rather useless.

    Third, she didn't fully describe or break down what she was doing, which makes even the basic A-Z inappropriate for beginning or even early intermediate dancers, and probably difficult to use for more advanced dancers. The lack of breakdown didn't bother me for the hip and upper body and arm parts of the movement, but it really bothered me for the footwork. She didn't describe, for example, where your weight should be going into a turn, which foot you should land on after a turn, etc. She would also say "turn to the left", "turn to the right', but my brain thinks in terms of clockwise and counterclockwise. To her benefit, she does demonstrate them facing the camera and then with her back to the camera, but it was still difficult for me to break down what she was doing, especially with the constantly malfunctioning disc.

    Fourth, some of the combos were interesting, but what she did not do is demonstrate their full potential by matching them to different music well. She used only a couple of pieces of music in each video. I'm sure this had to do with copyright and the limitations of her budget. I totally understand, and yet the whole concept of using combos of movements with particulary kinds of phrases of music was lost. IMO the advanced video is even worse because she uses drum solo music to demonstrate combos with even more complicated footwork. Sometimes the combos just didn't go well with the music.

    She also talks about "sacred geometry" in the advanced version. I'm not even sure what sacred geometry is, but I'm pretty sure the Egyptian dancers don't use it to make dances.

    Sedonia

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    Hi Sedonia,
    Even though I really like her A-Z DVD and got a lot out of it, I wasn't crazy about the advanced A-Z dvd. I also had problems with playing some of the DVDs, but Keti was always great about sending you another DVD. I stated earlier that the A-Z might not reflect her Egyptian style, but her 5 volume set does.
    Tammy
    (PS: I really didn't know that thinking Keti as an Egyptian style dancer, would be conterversy .)

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