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    Default Obama's president: What does the world think?

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    What is the reaction in your country to this election's outcome? What does this mean to you and why?

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    Relief, mostly. Both at not having to live through another four years of Republicans in the House, and its implications for the rest of the world, and about the media frenzy about the elections ending. It's pretty much how everyone I've spoken with today feels as well.

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    over here on my site party party!!

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    As I posted on another thread. It will more than likely be years before we see some changes in the White House. These things take time and we may not see them while Obama is President. Sorry to break up the party, but he was not my choice for President and I just pray he has the knowledge and ability to deal with foreign affairs, mainly on terrorism. 911 will forever be in my mind with all the innocent lives that have been lost. I am however happy to see the first African/American man in the White House. Congratulations to the Obama family. It was definately a Historic election for the United States of America.

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    To be honest I'm just not enthusiatic as everybody else about this.
    I mean for the african diaspora it is a great achievement given the history of race relations in america. it is a dream come true. it is something historic and it is something to be proud about.

    but i don't know how many of you heard or read about Obama's AIPAC speech,
    Obama's AIPAC speech. Text as prepared for delivery. - Lynn Sweet
    but i'm weary of the language after reading that...

    people are making obama out to be a great beacon of hope..that's a huge responsibility to thrust on someone, and even that people should be weary about. I hope for his sake he does not dissapoint.

    In my country we have a saying..."when america gets a cold, trinidad sneezes" so there is much enthusiasm here over the win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuteNurse View Post
    As I posted on another thread. It will more than likely be years before we see some changes in the White House. These things take time and we may not see them while Obama is President. Sorry to break up the party, but he was not my choice for President and I just pray he has the knowledge and ability to deal with foreign affairs, mainly on terrorism. 911 will forever be in my mind with all the innocent lives that have been lost. I am however happy to see the first African/American man in the White House. Congratulations to the Obama family. It was definately a Historic election for the United States of America.
    Sorry to rant, as this was not the way I intended the conversation to go..... but what do you think the other candidate and his party could have done to protect us from terrorism? Where was their knowledge and ability when it came to dealing with the Middle East in the past? Its because of their foreign policies that we are in the mess we are in now. We lost a little over 2,000 people in 9/11. Do you have any idea the millions of innocent lives that have been lost in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you have any idea the extent of suffering and deformities children are being born with in Iraq because of radiation from depleated uranium?

    Had my mother not forgotten she had a union meeting in the towers that day, she may very well have been one of those killed that day and I have friends who were not as lucky as I was. What makes me think that our lives are any more precious than Iraqi lives. We who suffered the most on 9/11 were the first to protest retaliation because we didn't want innocent families to suffer as we did.

    The best thing that could have been done to protect us from terrorism was not to start a war in Iraq based on deception and lies. There were no terrorist organizations in Iraq prior to the war, but you can sure bet there are now.

    As for 9/11. I lived in Manhattan at the time, I could smell the smoke from the towers, they were in my back yard. Funny, but I think New Yorkers understood what happened much better than anyone else in the country. Had the United States not trained and armed the Taliban, there would have been no Afghanistan and there would have been no 9/11. The best way to protect us from terrorism is not through military aggression, but by wise and humane international policies. If the USA had not sent the CIA into Iran to destabilize the democratically elected government of President Musadek, (who was assassinated), just because he wanted to nationalize his country's resources, (oil), and replace him with the dictator Sha of Iran, there would have been no Islamic revolution in that country. Had there been no Islamic revolution in Iran, there would have been no Hezbollah, Taliban, Al Qaida etc. This is the legacy that this countries bigotry and racism has bequeathed
    to us and our future generations. The only way to change this is to change the way we deal with other people, not by giving more money to the military industrial complex.

    I don't believe Obama is going to work miracles, but at the least, perhaps he can turn us in a different direction.

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    They had a poll here about what people think of Obama winning and there was around 37 thousand + for him and 2
    thousand+ would have preffered McCain.

    Most people here felt it was time for a change, they felt that Bush and his cronies has driven the US into 'poo street without a paddle' and a very deep dislike of America is very evident around the world.

    Overall Aussies welcome the change and feel that he will be a very hard working president. He has an extremely tough job & doubly so I think, with the eyes of the world upon him.

    My husband said, I wonder how long it will take for his hair to turn white (something we notice tends to happen quite rapidly to US Presidents). I wish him well and sure hope he gathers very good advisors around him.

    I understand what Kayshier is saying ... so much hype around him being an African American, yes it is wonderful he has broken a huge barrier, but it is the man's ability to be a good and strong leader that should be the focus, not the colour of his skin, and personally I think he can be just that "a good strong leader".
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    PS: I didn't answer part of Tariks question - "What does it mean to me and why". For one I can get back to watching TV without the campaign being beamed at me constantly <smile ... joke>

    Seriously, it really won't impact me personally, but I hope that overall and over time, damage done by the Bush Admin will be rectified, that America will not take on the unelected world spot of 'world police', that it won't willy-nilly just invade other sovereign countries, that it will look within its own borders and sort home problems out and sit at world round tables and discuss problems and be part of whatever decisions made, not the "if your not with us you are against us in your face attitude' anymore. A heads up America, the rest of the world really did/does resent the 'big brother' dictorship of the bush admin and want to see it gone. We are our own sovereign nations and really don't need the whitehouse ordering us around. Why did little Johnny Howard find himself out in the cold after our elections, because he was way too much in Bush's pocket!

    So President Elect Obama, bring America into the world as part of the world, not the worlds unelected policeman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuteNurse View Post
    As I posted on another thread. It will more than likely be years before we see some changes in the White House. These things take time and we may not see them while Obama is President. Sorry to break up the party, but he was not my choice for President and I just pray he has the knowledge and ability to deal with foreign affairs, mainly on terrorism. 911 will forever be in my mind with all the innocent lives that have been lost. I am however happy to see the first African/American man in the White House. Congratulations to the Obama family. It was definately a Historic election for the United States of America.
    Hey hey ... KuteNurse if you have voted for McCain/Palin you are not cute anymore.
    As for the 9/11 actually, I could smell the burning ashes a week after the tragedy driving through the Brooklyn Bridge it never go away. I consider myself a New Yorker unfortunately, I have seen how these things have been developing through the years 60 to be exact. I hate to break it to you it's the US policy ..... don't believe the crap you hear from the Republican machine Muslims hate you because they hate your way of life ... they want to convert you ... to what ?? It's the last thing that's 9/11 is about.

    We do need people like Obama/Biden and Colin Powell who understand the world and could use common sense and diplomacy. We don't need another
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    cowboy at the White House. we need people who put their country first ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by masrawy View Post
    Hey hey ... KuteNurse if you have voted for McCain/Palin you are not cute anymore.
    As for the 9/11 actually, I could smell the burning ashes a week after the tragedy driving through the Brooklyn Bridge it never go away. I consider myself a New Yorker unfortunately, I have seen how these things have been developing through the years 60 to be exact. I hate to break it to you it's the US policy ..... don't believe the crap you hear from the Republican machine Muslims hate you because they hate your way of life ... they want to convert you ... to what ?? It's the last thing that's 9/11 is about.

    We do need people like Obama/Biden and Colin Powell who understand the world and could use common sense and diplomacy. We don't need another
    loose
    cowboy at the White House. we need people who put their country first ...
    Exactly! I think part of the tragedy is how many people were kept in the dark when it came to America's foreign policies. One month after I moved here from Jamaica we were invaded by the USA? Why? Because our prim-minister actually had the nerve to suggest that we, not the IMF, should determine the course of our country's financial freedom. Because we thought that it was only natural that we had diplomatic relations with Cuba, who we can see on a clear day. Because he dared to suggest that we should try to build our own industries, and agriculture rather than being dependent on importing everything from the USA. For that thousands of people lost their lives, almost every industry was eventually sold to the US and the guts ripped out of our own agriculture, and a poor country now is even poorer. And this is only Jamaica. We won't even mention Mexico, Nicaragua, Columbia, Grenada, Haiti or all the countries in Africa and Asia. Its a miracle Americans can travel anywhere in the world and that there was only one 9/11. People don't try to blow up other countries just because they're jealous! Let alone the city with perhaps the second largest Middle Eastern community in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayshier View Post
    To be honest I'm just not enthusiatic as everybody else about this.
    I mean for the african diaspora it is a great achievement given the history of race relations in america. it is a dream come true. it is something historic and it is something to be proud about.

    but i don't know how many of you heard or read about Obama's AIPAC speech,
    Obama's AIPAC speech. Text as prepared for delivery. - Lynn Sweet
    but i'm weary of the language after reading that...

    people are making obama out to be a great beacon of hope..that's a huge responsibility to thrust on someone, and even that people should be weary about. I hope for his sake he does not dissapoint.

    In my country we have a saying..."when america gets a cold, trinidad sneezes" so there is much enthusiasm here over the win.
    Didn't you know that AIPAC and the 'Israel lobby' are the core lobby influence in Congress and US foreign policy? All American politicians cater to AIPAC. Why do you think that presidential candidates did the 'pilgrimage' to Israel during thier campaign? That's one of the main prerequisites to entering the White House.

    That speech was disappointing . However, keep in mind that he was just trying to win. People see Obama as the great beacon of hope because the world is tired of Republicans and their holy wars. There is also hope that Obama will fix the economic crisis mess which the other idiot left behind. No one said he was going to bring peace to the Middle East or give the Palestinians their land back.

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