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maria_harlequin

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This caused quite an uproar a few years ago and I was actually one of those people that went, "WTF??? Why would you wear that to a wedding???" This was of course, way before I started belly dancing or I would've recognized that as a bedlah!

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The website above was the one where I discovered those pictures and the author was clearly in a state of shock too heehee...
 
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Caroline_afifi

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I am not even that naked when I dance!! :lol:

Eman Zaki designed and made my wedding gown in Cairo... it was a real wedding dress not a 'bedlah type'.

She does however get a few requests for 'bedlah wedding dresses'
 
Reen.Blom

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Umf.... seen somewhere pix of a Russian bride getting married in a bikini... lost the link though....LOL
 
karena

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For me just because there is a tradition (based on pretty outdated and patriarchal stuff) that you wear a certain thing to a wedding, doesn't mean you should. I find it pretty dodgy that people spend a lot of money and world's resources on a dress that it worn once. So getting a dress that reflects your passion and you can use again to me is bang on. :dance:
 
maria_harlequin

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karena said:
For me just because there is a tradition (based on pretty outdated and patriarchal stuff) that you wear a certain thing to a wedding, doesn't mean you should. I find it pretty dodgy that people spend a lot of money and world's resources on a dress that it worn once. So getting a dress that reflects your passion and you can use again to me is bang on. :dance:
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For my senior banquet, I wore a white medieval style gown with long flowing sleeves and a teacher of mine said, "You can just use that again for your wedding!"

I would but unfortunately the gown was torn a few years ago and couldn't be fixed (stupid me lending it to a theater production).

I wouldn't mind getting a dress for a wedding that I would only wear once though!!! I want my Lindsay Flemming or Kathleen Crowley wedding dress darn it - even if it's ridiculously expensive and I can never wear it anywhere else! I'll have an expensive dress and an economical wedding somewhere in the woods.

Actually I don't think most "traditional" wedding gowns are patriarchal. Like I don't see ball gowns which are probably the most popular style of wedding dresses today and almost a "tradition" as patriarchal. Unless by "traditional" you mean white. And the idea that a bride should wear white was actually made popular by a woman - Queen Victoria! Is there even a "traditional" wedding dress? Western wedding dresses seem to have changed so much throughout the centuries that I can't even think about what's traditional.

Unless traditional means no bedlah! :lol:

I agree with you about how you shouldn't just wear what "you should" though but what you really love. My dance teacher wore this gorgeous knee-length flapper style gown for her wedding with an open back with gold chains embellished with Swarovski crystals. Definitely not the norm but she was gorgeous!
 
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karena

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maria_harlequin said:
Actually I don't think most "traditional" wedding gowns are patriarchal. Like I don't see ball gowns which are probably the most popular style of wedding dresses today and almost a "tradition" as patriarchal. Unless by "traditional" you mean white. And the idea that a bride should wear white was actually made popular by a woman - Queen Victoria! Is there even a "traditional" wedding dress? Western wedding dresses seem to have changed so much throughout the centuries that I can't even think about what's traditional.
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You don't have to be male to perpetuate patriarchy.

You don't see commonality in what brides traditionally wear to weddings?? I see nothing but.

If people want to wear that, it's great, but if people want to wear something else, that is great too.
 
Shanazel

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I made my own wedding dress from a Vogue pattern and fabric I got on sale for 75% off. I think the whole thing cost me $50 in 1981. It was a traditional full skirted empire waisted long sleeved satin gown. Color: off white (like me). I've been using pieces of left over satin and lace in art projects for years. :D

If I was getting married today, I'd probably wear my best jeans and have a barbeque after the ceremony, but I don't regret wearing that dress at the age of 26.
 
maria_harlequin

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karena said:
You don't see commonality in what brides traditionally wear to weddings?? I see nothing but.
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What is a traditional and patriarchal wedding dress?

I never said I don't see brides wearing the same old thing to weddings - I do! That's why I mentioned ball gowns. I see them on brides everywhere.
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Aniseteph

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To me traditional is something ballgowny that you'd never normally wear in the daytime, and white-ish. Make a statement by changing the colour (red? :shok:) or style (maybe a tailored white or cream suit). Change both and everyone wonders who the bride is! :lol:
 
karena

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I'm not really big on definitions, it would just be my definition (which if course would have commonality with others, but I can be pretty sure people don't need that stating). But if people are able to send round an email (not here, but people talked about how it was circulated) with pictures of this wedding dress in a 'goodness me what is she wearing' vein, then people must be drawing on a shared notion of what a bride should wear in order to make the comparison.

And for brides to be 'alternative' there must be something to be 'alternative' from, otherwise that reference wouldn't work either.
 
Shanazel

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I started this thread in a "Wah! Too cool!" vein, but then I recall when brides were getting married in tiny baby doll minidresses that barely covered their dear little lace edged bikini panties, and have seen all sorts of fashions come and go in wedding attire. We get a lot of prairie styles in this part of the country for western themed weddings where the bride wears white cowboy boots and the groom wears his best black jeans and bolo tie.

My favorite quote re: suitable bridal wear comes from a bridal specialist (tres, tres French she was) who was faced with a bride who kept wanting the neckline of her dress to be cut lower: "Does Mademoiselle intend to carry them up the aisle on a silver tray?"
 
Reen.Blom

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karena said:
For me just because there is a tradition (based on pretty outdated and patriarchal stuff) that you wear a certain thing to a wedding, doesn't mean you should. I find it pretty dodgy that people spend a lot of money and world's resources on a dress that it worn once. So getting a dress that reflects your passion and you can use again to me is bang on. :dance:
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To me it is not about the tradition, but about the atmosphere- the once in a lifetime thing. Also many people choose to rent a dress or buy one second hand, or sell theirs on. Another option would be to donate it to charity shop or to a bride that cant afford one.(That's what i plan on doing)

Well, my dress wont cost thousands of pounds, so I would NOT go as far as to call it 'world resources'...

Wait, does cycling everywhere i go(even to do weekly shopping...eeek) make up for the 'wasted' dress?I can bet that owning a car puts a far greater toll on the above mentioned resources than once a life time getting a pretty dress.... LOL

To everyone their own after all....
 
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