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    Quote Originally Posted by Kharis View Post
    Why couldn't somebody be able to have all the above off pat in a year?
    I could see where someone could master the basics perfectly by one year, not belly dance its self but the basics of belly dance. I myself have not got all down pat by a year. I think very few would, I take group classes, and practice one on one with my teacher, I practice for two hours 3-4 times a week at home, with instructional vids and what my teacher has shown me. im gettin there ha
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    I meant the movements, not the whole dancing . After you got all the movements right you got to put it together into a dance, that is not that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmir View Post
    I guess because I have never seen it. It would take more than talent - it would take one fantastic teacher. If someone had such a teacher - and they were learning from them as opposed to just attending class - they would not be asking such a naive question.
    I've not only seen it, I''m one of them. So I guess it's a loaded question to me when I hear people say this. My original teacher was a follow the leader type, and taught us bugger all. I used to go home and study footage of Fifi and Lucy and just about every single bit of film and video I could get my hands and eyes on and a lot of my movements were self taught in this respect. Thank God, nobody said to me what you've said to the OP. I mean no disrespect to you with this statement, Kashmir, so please don't take it the wrong way. If you had said that to me, I may well have never had the confidence to push myself into the professional arena. I was dancing professionally and with musicians within a year of first starting to learn the dance. So I know that it's possible. But it does require hard work, and utter dedication,and I used to practice for at least 3 hours a night 24/7 and attend lots of workshops. I do agree that it would be nigh on impossible to achieve this by merely attending a class once a week. But with enough focus and personal drive, it can be done.

    I started out getting gigs on my own. My very first gigs were private parties and events. I attended workshops with a local drummer and he offered me work. I then hooked up with a dancer called Jane and started working the restaurant circuit with her. She was a seasoned dancer and was kind enough to share work with me. A short time after that I hooked up with another dancer, Tracey, from Manchester and worked with her also. It snowballed from there. Nobody around me at that time ever said that I was not competent simply because I'd been dancing for just over a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashida_Habib View Post
    I could see where someone could master the basics perfectly by one year, not belly dance its self but the basics of belly dance. I myself have not got all down pat by a year. I think very few would, I take group classes, and practice one on one with my teacher, I practice for two hours 3-4 times a week at home, with instructional vids and what my teacher has shown me. im gettin there ha
    You're lucky to have a teacher like that. I didn't. My teacher was a good dancer but a lousy teacher. If the students couldn't work out the movements for themselves, they struggled. I was lucky, I can work stuff out just by watching it.

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    Hello Rashida,

    I agree with Jenc, its best to see a dancer master basic moves first. Mastering your basic moves at beginner intermediate and advanced, is the #1 key element to becoming a seasoned professional level oriental dancer. That's, your undulations, shimmies, figure eights, hip circle, basic Egyptian, upper body isolation, lower body isolation, upper body, traveling steps and all the variations the go into each of those. Then your veils & zills! I'm not sure what style belly dance you do but be sure to explore different levels of Egyption, Lebanese Turkish, tribal, Greek, american cabaret, vintage, folkloric etc.

    Upon your Belly dance journey you will find many teachers, classmates, instruction DVDS, online videos, performances at haflas, and some may display a routine with an uncommon dance move, or a unique performance. When you learn and see things like this you will know what feels "right". It may seem appealing to master & add it to your routines.

    Try researching moves, routines or styles that are not commonly preformed in your area, or this time era yet still acceptable in belly dance. For example I been trying to learn some floor work recently. Many have referred to it as a dying art. And its true, floor work is a dying art! Because I have never seen a floor work at a live performance nor have I seen it from many of the famous performers. The first time I watched a breath taking floor work routine video on the internet, I knew then and there I would developed a passion for floor work.

    Have you ever considered Fusion or fantasy style belly dance? With many fusion styles, not all parts of the routine are true raks sharqi moves; however they would certainly be considered unique in many people's eyes. If you choose to do fusion, make sure when advertising your dancing or posting videos you label that routine or as fusion or as none fusion for what style of belly dance you know.
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    You can also take what you have already learned and be creative by forming your own unusual move

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    I can't really specify any clips, but there are loads of good ones out there where you will see unusual moves and combinations. Rashida have you seen any clips with unusual moves you can share here?

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    I couldn't find it online, but on the 5th Annual Awards DVD by IAMED there is a performance by Katia with a Pharaonic theme. It's not your typical Pharaonic dance, it's a real belly dance but highy stylized. A lot of unusual moves and poses, done brilliantly.

    What about Ansuya, she has a very distinct style and some unusual moves based on a background in American Cabaret style belly dance:


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    Ansuya can always be counted on to have some unusual and original moves. They are also challenging and do move you out of your comfort zone and up a notch.

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