Why is a separate forum area needed to discuss tribal? There isn't a separate section for discussing Egyptian style, Lebanese style, Turkish style, Hilal style, or any other style. If those other dance styles don't need separate sections, why does tribal?
I guess because the whole forum is perceived as 'egyptian lebanese turkish cabaret etc' and oh yeah, im scared to look into any tribal discussion, because of non tribal folks saying its not bellydance... or that fusion is the greatest sin...
To my mind a subforum in styles would be a 'safer' place, but I guess to some folks 'separating' it and not giving an equal 'rights' to other styles is degrading or smth?
But well, let us stay lurkers....
The other one being that 'what looks like bellydance' but does not have traditional costuming nor strictly originated in ME can ever be considered as bellydance.... oh and the 'value' of fusing is also questioned
Hey Makeda, this is my very illusion that a separate forum would prevent such 'debates' as it being a 'tribal' zone, it would be off topic.
Gosh, now I see your point. Its not about anything but having a SEPARATE subforum for tribal? I dont think the same feelings would be expressed say if a separate egyptian forum was offered? Does it imply to you folks a big crack in the big boat of bellydance?
And yes if a discussion of a tribal video or costume ends up as a discussion of how valid the tribal as a danceform is, then yes to me its off-topic.
Well, actually, if there was a proposal to create a separate section for Egyptian, I probably would still ask the question of, "Why have a separate section for one, but not the others?"
Especially if the request came on the heels of an Egyptian-style dancer complaining that the mean tribal people keep entering her threads and saying they hate Middle Eastern music and think the flirtatious nature of so many Egyptian performances is denigrating to women and besides we can't know what it's like to be from the Middle Eastern culture so why even try....
The proposal to create a separate section for just one style for the sole purpose of banning discussions you don't like just feels "off" to me.
I see there is a positive, productive discussion surrounding Tribal Butterfly's question about a cream costume. Why not try to initiate more threads of that sort?
It may be off topic to the specific thread, but it would still fit under an overall forum topic area of tribal.
I agree. I think the recent ITS thread was very positive and a fascinating read for both sides. I also thought it brought more understanding of each other to both sides. Karena's Rose thread also looked at definition and fusion in a new and challenging way. I would hate to see threads like that end because people were keeping to their own forums. Although I'm not against the idea of a separate forum, I just don't know if that will help the issue or just avoid it.
Sita
For me what I loved about Tribal is the mixing of bellydance with modern elements. It is true that a lot TF dancers try to say their dance is bellydance when there is no hint of BD in their dance at all. Then they should just call it Tribal Fusion (PERIOD) not Tribal Fusion Bellydance.