Thank you that helps me understand it better. I really loved the site, I used to be what was termed a 'Romantic Goth' heavily into Renaissance/ Medieval style/pre-Raphaelite style - the only style that truly understands the magnificence that is crushed velvet. It still influences my style now.A little more, cause the site had a total freak-out while I was trying to post earlier.
In perspective, considering the roots of GBD, I think the distinction has a lot to do with what Tribal Fusion is NOW, what was developing back THEN which was was ambiguously "experimental Middle Eastern dance/ bellydance" - and that the experimental types of dance were far more welcome at Tribal events (Tribal Fest, Tribal Cafe, Tribal Quest) then they were at more traditional bellydance events (though that rarely stopped the proverbial us from presenting them there..). I know that I felt far more comfortable and accepted at Tribal Fest then Rakkasah back then. I worked with Tribal dancers and took some classes with Fat Chance and Ultra Gypsy, but I kept going back to my roots. I was more inspired by the aesthetic and feel of Tribal, but I loved the oriental and folkloric vocabulary far more, and was probably best described as Tribaret back then as I sorted it out with my dark nuances - and none of that involved the pop-lock-hip-hop-glitch moves and combos that categorizes Tribal Fusion today.
However I found/find Gothic culture - the energy and feel- so distant from raqs sharki. I could understand Flamenco as it has that dark brooding passion or Tango - passion/death relationship. It intrigues me that belly dance was the form chosen, if you see what i mean. The only link I suppose is Theda Bara due to that silent movie/Orientalist aesthetic. so what drew you towards belly dance?
and did you choose the term Gothic belly dance or was it choosen for you?
I struggle with the definition as belly dance because of the culture, feel/energy, although I understand the lineage so to speak. I'm not attacking, I'm just interested in this even if we don't agree. Your site describes the particular energy and attitude of movement, such as the trance aspect. Do you not feel that this dance form needs a more indiviudal idenitity to represent that, so to speak, like ATS has. You state: Gothic Belly Dance is a complete entity, from all sides. It's not just dancing to "gothic" music in bedlah, or dressing goth and dancing to standard/traditional Middles Eastern music...and believe it or not, it's not just looking the part and dancing to gothic music either---there is a third element that is vital to the performance: a sense of theatrics, emotional intensity, drama, and purpose.
Do you not find though that the specific term 'Gothic belly dance' does exactly that; give an image of a bedlah with industrial movement? The term does seem to imply an aesthetic difference only, yet you listed a different movement philosophy to both tribal and raqs/M.E.
Anyway don't worry about disagreeing with me, I am interested in discussing these things. I really enjoyed the site it brought back some memories -