Make up help.

Imeera

Imeera

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I have never worn make up in my life and I was thinking about trying some out. But the problem is I have NO idea where to start. I don't think I would ever wear heavy make up, but more natural looking stuff. So how do I do that? What do I need to get? Do I need to get everything (foundation, lipstick, eyeliner ect) or just a few things? What colours should I get?

Help is very much appreciated =]
Thank you!

Imeera
 
asteria

asteria

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HI Imeera,

My suggestion for makeup would be to get your colors done at a make up counter (around here we have MAC and FACES, im not sure what you would have in your location), they show you how to apply different types of makeup and show how to apply day and evening looks.
If you just want to experiment on your own, i would suggest a tinted moisturizer to even out your skin and give it a healthy glow, and maybe using a brown eye liner and mascara, and just give your lips a swipe with a peachy-brown lip color
everybody has their own way of applying makeup...so just play with it to see what works best for you!
 
Eshta

Eshta

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Hi Imeera,

I found some wonderful tutorials on youtube that really helped me with some good techniques.

I second the advice: go wander around a mall and get them to put makeup on you. Just don't dive in the deep end and buy everything they tell you to!
 
Farasha Hanem

Farasha Hanem

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Imeera

Imeera

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Thanks everyone! I will look at the other threads and videos. It seems rather complicated haha But I am sure I will be fine. Thanks again! =D
 
RayaDancer

RayaDancer

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well this is my forte as i am a makeup artist by trade so what i can tell you is this... if you really never had any experience with wearing make up AT ALL, your best bet is to go to a department store or boutique and have someone guide you through the process of picking things out. ESPECIALLY with foundations, as there are so many different formulas, base colors, textures and coverages out there, youre gonna want someone to help you navigate through them all. They will also be able to help you with some application techniques. I find most of my clients had problems with learning to apply eyeliner and eye shadows, so you might find it helpful to have someone guide you through it at first. I think once you get the basics of applications down, and you are comfortable with applying things yourself, your next step is to begin experimenting with colors and more bold applications.
a few key things to remember:
-brushes are important and its always worth the investment as a good brush should last at least ten years and it can make or break your makeup application.
-ask for samples whenever possible so you can wear the product all day and really see how it looks in different lighting and so you can see how it interacts with your skin.
-remember that the salespeople are there to sell and sometimes they might come on strong and try to sell you things you may not want or need. Dont be afraid to say "no thank you" to anything you dont want. if that salesperson doesn't respect your limits, find someone else. Makeup shopping should be a fun experience, and you should walk out of the store feeling good about everything you bought.
Best of luck and feel free to contact me on this forum if you have any other questions! :D
 
Imeera

Imeera

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RayaDancer said:
well this is my forte as i am a makeup artist by trade so what i can tell you is this... if you really never had any experience with wearing make up AT ALL, your best bet is to go to a department store or boutique and have someone guide you through the process of picking things out. ESPECIALLY with foundations, as there are so many different formulas, base colors, textures and coverages out there, youre gonna want someone to help you navigate through them all. They will also be able to help you with some application techniques. I find most of my clients had problems with learning to apply eyeliner and eye shadows, so you might find it helpful to have someone guide you through it at first. I think once you get the basics of applications down, and you are comfortable with applying things yourself, your next step is to begin experimenting with colors and more bold applications.
a few key things to remember:
-brushes are important and its always worth the investment as a good brush should last at least ten years and it can make or break your makeup application.
-ask for samples whenever possible so you can wear the product all day and really see how it looks in different lighting and so you can see how it interacts with your skin.
-remember that the salespeople are there to sell and sometimes they might come on strong and try to sell you things you may not want or need. Dont be afraid to say "no thank you" to anything you dont want. if that salesperson doesn't respect your limits, find someone else. Makeup shopping should be a fun experience, and you should walk out of the store feeling good about everything you bought.
Best of luck and feel free to contact me on this forum if you have any other questions! :D
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Wow thank you Ranya! I have been to a shop, The Body Shop, and got some help. I ended up spending £86!! Most of it was on brushes, they are so expencive! All I got was three brushes, foundation, lipstick, mascara and blush/bronzer. I went for a more natural look, eg brown mascara because I am blonde. Who knew it would cost so much! I am happy though and have started wearing it most of the time if I go out of the house. I was thinking about experimenting with eye liner and shadow for I go out to a party ect but I am in no rush. I am out of money at the moment haha If I have any questions I will be sure to ask for your expert advice ^.^
Thank you again!!
 
RayaDancer

RayaDancer

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good for you! just remember that a great makeup application, like great dancing, take practice, practice, practice! good luck!
 
XelaHayam

XelaHayam

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Yes, youtube helps alot. But i think the most important advice for stage or resturaunt make up, is that it has to be a little over the top (darker/brighter) if you want your features to show under the bright lights, or in the dark resturaunt. So natural makeup is not going to show, you'll just looked washed out... basically up everything a notch that you see in "daily wear" youtube videos, or find videos geared to performance makeup. My rule of thumb, especially for stage makeup, is that if you look like a drag queen under normal lighting, your going to look great and normal under stage lighting ;) lol
 
BellaBohemian

BellaBohemian

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First and foremost a lot of makeup depends on your skin type. If you have oily skin you don't want to put on an oil based makeup. Its also important to understand how makeup works. If you just want to make your eyes pop with a beautiful vivid blue eyeshadow, you will need a base, otherwise by the middle of your performance you will have a horrible bright blue crease on your eye.

Foundation: if you have normal, "imperfection" free, healthy, beautiful skin then PLEASE avoid foundation like the plague lol! However if you feel you need/want to use foundation here is a good rule of thumb:

Oily Skin: Mineral foundation. This will help to absorb the oils in your skin as well
as provide needed minerals to the face. It is BareMinerals is rather pricey
and having used it for 3 years I don't think its all its hyped to be. Avon
and Physicians Formula (found in most drug and grocery stores) are
cheaper alternative.

Dry Skin: Tinted Moisturizer. This helps to provide much needed moisture to the
the skin as well as gives a light coverage. Being that I went to school for
Aveda I am partial to their tinted moisturizer, but it is pricey. Avon and
CoverGirl have cheaper solutions.

Normal Skin: Translucent Powder. If you have fair to medium skin, use translucent
powder. However for darker complexions try to find a loose powder
that matches your skin tone. Translucent and loose powders provide the
least amount of coverage. I often seen women with normal skin that
cake on makeup, its not nessicary. If you have a few patches of uneven
tone you want to hide, use a dab of concealer and blend well.

If you are like me and you have facial scars, acne, rosascea or other noticeable skin issues, then obviously you need more work to look "natural". The use of concealer is going to need to be included in your budget. Find a shade that is more yellow in tone as pinks will make the redness of your "imperfections" stand out. Also, try to find a shade that is exactly your skin colour or one shade lighter. Apply with a concealer brush or your finger tips and blend the edges well.

For your eyes, I recommend that all performers invest in a good Eyelid Primer. If you have a Target store near you, E.L.F. (eyes lips face) makeup sells one for 1$!! E.L.F. sells a lot of decent makeup for amazingly low prices!!! I often use their concealer over my blemishes and scars and it works perfectly. Eyelid Primer helps to prevent your eyeshadow and eyeliner from smearing and creasing. Just keep in mind when applying:: Your eyelids are the MOST sensitive part on your face and can be easily damaged, use a gentle light touch. Use your fingers instead of an application wand.

Eyeshadows work like most things in life: the more expensive it is the better the colour is likely to show. I bought a pack of 10 eye shadows a few years ago for 3$. . .its too bad when I got home none of them showed up on my face. Ebay sells entire pallets of 100+ colours for 10$ or more. Since most of us own costumes in many different colours, I recommend the investment.

Eyeliner. . .this is the tricky part. Pencil eyeliner is obviously easy to use and creates a softer more natural look when applied lightly. I use Avon and sometimes NYColor. Look for a pencil that glides over your skin with the least amount of drag. However, beware if it is too soft as you can end up with raccoon eyes haha. Keep it sharp each time you use (not dagger sharp but enough to create a crisp fine line). DO NOT apply inside the eye! That is something to be left to a professional or someone who has some makeup history.

If you want a very dramatic Arabic "cat eye" type look, you are going to need to learn how to use liquid or gel eyeliner. Its NOT easy. It requires a stedy hand and pratice. Getting this stuff in your eye not only hurts like no other, but can cause damage to the eye. Most other makeup artists and cosmetologist will say "Leave liquid eyeliner to the pros". I however learned how to use it long before I went to cosmetology school, you CAN do it. Avon and E.LF. offer cheap eyeliner that you can practice with, start off by using it on a piece of paper or napkin. Then try it on the back of your hand, feel how different it is on skin. When you feel confident, try it on your eye. The ideal is to get as close to the lash line without going into the eye (easier said then done!).

Mascara, not everyone needs mascara. If you have darker lashes already, simply use a lash curler. If you like mascara, by all means, go for it! Im actually on an adventure to find the best mascara, right now I would highly recommend either GreenScience mascara or CoverGirls Lash-Blast (both found in drug stores or grocery stores).

Lips, natural lips are easy! Here is a tip for keeping up beautiful lips. Daily, apply a coat of chapstick, then lightly with a tooth brush (or a soft bristle clean mascara wand lol) brush over your lips to remove dead skin. After, pat with water then reapply the chapstick. This is an important step, especally if you want to wear lipstick, it will help increase the wear on it. Want some colour but dont want it to look too harsh? Try a lip stain. Here is another little tip if you want a really cheap lip stain: find a lipstick you have around the house that is a little bit darker then the shade you want to achieve (for example, you want your lips to look naturally dark pinkey-red so find a vibrant red lipstick) apply all over your lips as you would normally. Now, use a tissue to blot away all the lipstick. (try not to rub off as you can stain the skin around your lips) You will be left with a subtle stain, apply some lipgloss or chapstick.

A note on blush and bronzer:: First of all, unless you are actually trying to alter your appearance, use only 1 at a time. Using both at the same time can make you look like you are wearing a ton of makeup. Find colours that match your skin's tone. There are a bunch of tutorials on blush/bronzer out there. If you are going more natural, I wouldn't bother with these too much.

So, in short (too late?) apply a foundation all over blending well down the chin and neck area. (If you use a liquid foundation use a translucent powder over top to seal your makeup, unless of course you have dry skin) Apply Eyelid Primer to your eyes. Apply eyeshadow. Apply eyeliner. Apply lip colour or balm. Done!

A trick I learned was to give your face a quick and light once over with hairspray to help make your makeup stick. (Keep your eyes and mouth closed if you do this!!)
I think I have carried on long enough. I apologize for the length!
 
XelaHayam

XelaHayam

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BellaBohemian said:
A trick I learned was to give your face a quick and light once over with hairspray to help make your makeup stick. (Keep your eyes and mouth closed if you do this!!)
I think I have carried on long enough. I apologize for the length!
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Yes! My mother taught me this trick! But they now have a product at sephora (I think it's called "quick fix" or "fix it" im sure you can ask...) you just spritz it on your face after youve done your make up and you makeup holds like cement! wont sweat off or crease or smear or anything! And its made for your face so i assume its less chemically than hair spray. Its the one product i splerge on, nearly everything else i use is from the drug store (melanie and physitions formula have GREAT pigment in their products for low cost)
 
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Belly Love

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Makeup is definitely an art. It takes quite a long time to perfect it, even just for your own face. If you're going to wear just a few things, I suggest: Mascara, blush, gloss... and always have your brows done. Concealor for spots is important too.

There are certain things that really shouldn't be worn without the other- like wearing foundation with nothing else- it looks unfinished. Same with wearing eyeliner- unless you have super dark lashes, it doesn't look right to have eyeliner without mascara.

Maybe you can look through magazines and look at pics of celebs- those who are similar to you in eye color/hair color/skin tone/face shape and find pics of looks you like and try to copy them.
 
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