video of Saida

Salome

Administrator
Can someone help me to define her style?

At the risk of starting a debate... Here is my humble opinion. Saida's style is Occidentally Oriental (Oridental? :lol:).

Totally generalizing here: on a movement level, the south American dancers (and Russian dancers too) seem to be very literal in terms of making the music visible. Like a good Egyptian dancer, I see the music on her, I see parallel’s in how the movement is expressed to interpret the music. So there's that, as well as the purpose - demonstrated well, costuming and music choices.

However, there is also an undeniable occidental accent. A balletic quality and a sophistication, an air of "performance", a refinement and perfectness that westerners find beautiful and desirable. There is no messiness, earthiness, rawness, not that informal, relaxed quality that Egyptian dancers often bring. I am not judging it as better or worse. It is a cultural difference in how we fundamentally approach 'performing' dance.

I think too the emoting element is distant and that is NOT particular to South Americans but foreign dancers in general. Collectively - we can't relate, we don't have that gut response to the music. It is more about performing than emoting. Which seems to be kind of the opposite to Egyptian style.

I'm not knocking Saida at all, by the way, I'm a fan.
 

PriscillaAdum

New member
I dunno. I see very little arabness in Saida's dancing. It just looks Occidentally Occidental to me. ;) And much too balletic.
I see a big difference between the style of Brazilian dancers and Argentinian dancers, though they're both South American they couldn't be more different. Lulu Sabongi comes to mind.

Regards
Priscilla


At the risk of starting a debate... Here is my humble opinion. Saida's style is Occidentally Oriental (Oridental? :lol:).

Totally generalizing here: on a movement level, the south American dancers (and Russian dancers too) seem to be very literal in terms of making the music visible. Like a good Egyptian dancer, I see the music on her, I see parallel’s in how the movement is expressed to interpret the music. So there's that, as well as the purpose - demonstrated well, costuming and music choices.

However, there is also an undeniable occidental accent. A balletic quality and a sophistication, an air of "performance", a refinement and perfectness that westerners find beautiful and desirable. There is no messiness, earthiness, rawness, not that informal, relaxed quality that Egyptian dancers often bring. I am not judging it as better or worse. It is a cultural difference in how we fundamentally approach 'performing' dance.

I think too the emoting element is distant and that is NOT particular to South Americans but foreign dancers in general. Collectively - we can't relate, we don't have that gut response to the music. It is more about performing than emoting. Which seems to be kind of the opposite to Egyptian style.

I'm not knocking Saida at all, by the way, I'm a fan.
 

gisela

Super Moderator
Maybe Accidentally Occidental? ;)

no just kidding.
I think she's gourgeous and clearly a very talented dancer but "not my kind of cup of tea" (as we say in Sweden).
 

Salome

Administrator
I dunno. I see very little arabness in Saida's dancing.

I didn't say I saw arabness in her dancing. What I said is that she seems to have a literal way with the music in terms of movement, like a good Egyptian dancer, I can see the music on her. Maybe we disagree there? In terms of spirit or essence and performance etc. it is occidental and very balletic.
 

PriscillaAdum

New member
Hi Salome
I know you didn't say that. It was a personal observation on my part and didn't have anything to do with what you said. I guess I should have only highlighted the part of your post where you coined the term Oridental, which I thought was funny. ;)

Regards
Priscilla



I didn't say I saw arabness in her dancing. What I said is that she seems to have a literal way with the music in terms of movement, like a good Egyptian dancer, I can see the music on her. Maybe we disagree there? In terms of spirit or essence and performance etc. it is occidental and very balletic.
 

Salome

Administrator
Hi Salome
I know you didn't say that. It was a personal observation on my part and didn't have anything to do with what you said. I guess I should have only highlighted the part of your post where you coined the term Oridental, which I thought was funny. ;)

Regards
Priscilla

oops. Ok that makes more sense, because we were saying the same thing. I thought I had maybe not spoke clearly, wouldn't be the first time!
 
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